Boris Speaks!

The believe that every member of the Conservative Party, all their MPs, and voters, is knowingly pushing for a state that strips normal citizens of money and rights in order to enrich the posh elite, that they are racists and homophobic, that they believe women should be chained to the kitchen sink. They do not believe that any type of conservative approach to economic or social issues could have any merit at all, or that anyone could honestly think so - those who claim to believe these things are uneducated and especially stupid, or fibbing in order to dupe the uneducated and stupid.

It just goes to show really that they are very narrow themselves in terms of their reading and exposure to different ideas.

Article in the Times. Some Tory Mps are raising concerns but also:
But a government source said that privately Conservative MPs had been pushing for the previous government policy to be abandoned. “I have never seen so many MPs lobby against a particular policy than [the trans conversion ban],” the source said.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fc631d36-b58f-11ec-8ba8-f6bf3099f5f6?shareToken=a11f399790f3f1cf89f84c4807eec6e4

I got a bit tearful watching it. I've only been involved in this fight for 3.5 years but this felt seminal.

This is probably the clearest sensible statement on the topic I’ve heard from any politician.

Which is pretty impressive considering it was Boris saying it!

Boris suddenly cares about women does he? Great. Perhaps he could do more than sound bites and do something to help single mothers, those choosing between heating or eating (or going hungry to feed their kids). Could he increase UC and help women?

It's depressing how people can ignore the cost of living crisis, it's what they want, to distract people from all the misery and damage they've caused.

And not a peep on Channel 4 news. In fact if you only watched Channel 4 news, you wouldn't even know this situation even existed!

Just had a brief exchange of emails with my local Toryboy MP. I work abroad part of the year but maintain a UK residence.

He's very clear & unequivocal in his support of women's spaces, & pretty forthright about his opinion being based in safeguarding & his position as the father of a young family.

I won't name him, but even my staunchly Labour Party parents agree he's a good, involved constituency MP. They wouldn't vote for him, but they think he's a decent bloke. Does a lot for the local community & stands his round in the pub.

Bit Brexit-y, which I can't agree with him on. Can't find anything else online about him to take particular issue with.

He's probably got my vote for the next election. I'm done with party tribalism & will vote on this one issue, for any sensible candidate.

Labour have left the door wide open and Boris has walked through it!

Sky is running Johnson's speech on a loop though, but is interesting to see such an important political stand by the PM of this country effectively blacked out of other news channels. The rot does seem to run very deep...

*For me Johnson has all the hallmarks of someone who is slowly but surely implementing a dictatorial system, erasing all form of dissents (see Chanel 4 , right to protest, justice system on its knees etc…) whilst keeping the population poor so their concerns are about putting food in the table/surviving rather than ‘rights’.
LD and Labour have their own issues but at least I’m holding the hope that things can be changed with public pressure. Whereas I don’t with BJ.

I also don’t believe women’s right will be anything but protected if our human rights charter is being disbanded*

Sorry this is just disinformation. You can protest when you like there is nothing stopping you doing so right now, Channel 4 is an expensive luxury we can no longer afford and the public are using so many other platforms now it is a good move. I work for the Justice system and we have a huge covid backlog (like everywhere else) but it is NOT on its knees thank you, and it is managing very well all things considered.

Your post is worrying because you seem to implying Starmer won't follow through with his plans, he absolutely will.

So you are voting for erasure by voting Labour. If you are happy with that, great, but at least have the courage to own the fact that you will no longer be called a woman, nor will your daughters and your rights and protections will cease to exist. You will cease to exist in any meaningful way. Why do you think so many of us are so alarmed?

FrecklesMalone

Labour are not looking out for women they have sided with a few males many who absolutely despise woman and have taken it upon themselves to decide what being a woman is

For that they shall lose many votes. I was thinking I can still vote labour but I can’t now this issue is has now moved form social media to a real political isues and rightly so

Labour have to decide what is important in society when they choose to listen to women again I may consider voting for them

Cannot bear the man but this was excellent. Practised and thoughtful despite saying he hadn't thought about it too much. That's a line in the sand and thank goodness. It's a real pity that Labour are making such a mess of it.

Yes I tried to look the news up on the BBC and it’s under sport

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The Daily Mail discussions around self id, a Kier Starmer non answer and now Noris Johnson has for once given a direct clear response for this to be headline talking point and this is absolutely what it should be

I’m glad it’s got to this and I have no time for claims that it’s right wing press manipulation nonsense that some are claiming it to be

As is very often touted on here, vote labour, join labour, work from the inside to fix the issues. Well I'm going to do just that with Tory. I have a head start because they know I'm a woman.

You'd think Labour would zip it and have good hard think for a bit, but no Rayner doubling down twitter.com/AngelaRayner/status/1511671203957776389

I'm fairly sure a lot of people are tweeting about it both positively and negatively but Twitter appears to not want anyone to know this.

I entirely sympathise with your anger, by the way, sarny, however you look at it the whole thing is a shitshow.

I have a 4yo DD, so I will be voting for my DD future. I will be voting Tory. I am prepared to suck up some short term hardship in order to safeguard my DDs future and her safety.

I have in fact already voted conservative once, due to this issue, when I voted Welsh conservative in the senedd election last May.

Fair enough, Roses. I think we're probably doing the same calculation with gritted teeth, and arriving at different answers. You say,

LD and Labour have their own issues but at least I’m holding the hope that things can be changed with public pressure.

but I think on this one they're less likely to concede, as their position seems to be held from some mysterious, semi-religious conviction rather than political pragmatism. I hope you're right and I'm wrong!

As so many people have said, what we really want is a credible opposition that supports women's rights, but if the way to achieve that is to batter Labour right now I'm prepared to do it.

Well, true to form it's been ignored on BBC TV and radio news so far. BBC website filed it under Sport. Let's see if Ch 4 deem it a newsworthy topic...

BBC has an ad running at the moment about how the BBC is for everyone. Like fuck it is. We pay the licence fee for what?

@TeenPlusCat exactly they stood back & did nothing, watched it go off & labour shoot themselves in the foot. You’re all mistaking my sweary angry rant with trying to shame any of you that are thinking of voting Tory, it’s not the case, I have considered it myself it’s just that all the political parties are the same, women do not matter, there is something deeply flawed & corrupt with our political systems.

for the first time ever I am grateful to BJ....

So so so hoping that Labour/Keir Starmer may begin to reflect on why this is going to be such a vote loser for them.... I do not believe they are that stupid.... If sport is beginning to see common sense (recent Cyclists letter), surely politicians might just too????

and not just a vote loser of course - but something that they must start to realise is deeply damaging to 51% of the population???

For those who want to contact No.10

contact.no10.gov.uk/

Or

10 Downing St, London SW1A 2AA

I'll be sending a card as I'm old fashioned like that.

@Unsure33 I’m an angry woman that’s why I swear, just like the Tories or any other political party don’t give a shit about women I don’t give a shit that you think I’m foul mouthed.