Boris Speaks!

All the Tory shills out in full force

That said I agree with them and reluctantly would vote for them as I cannot vote labour or Lib Dem as o usually do this is a hill I will die on.

That’s the whole point.
To ensure that people who normally would NEVER endorse their policies on the NHS/poverty/immigration/civil liberties etc… will still vote for them

Completely agree

Wonder how Crispin Blunt is feeling today....

A vote for Boris is a vote for women and girls
Seriously?!
I'm sorry but that's laughable.

Another one here worried about what seems like an attack on gillick competence.
It's disturbing that people seem OK with taking away choice and bodily autonomy.
That most certainly can affect women.

@MangyInseam I know the comments that are made but to imply that the Tories are innocent, when they continue to fuck over women, children, the poor, disabled, minorities is some next level bullshit. The leader of the Tory party Boris Johnson called gay men tank topped bum boys, compared Muslim women to letterboxes, labelled black Africans Piccaninnies with water melon smiles, also that the problem with Africa is that we are not in charge any more. Tell me what’s wrong with all this?

www.businessinsider.com/boris-johnson-record-sexist-homophobic-and-racist-comments-bumboys-piccaninnies-2019-6?amp

Positing yourself as someone who knows what the fucks going on, calling people stupid & uneducated is all kinds of wrong. You sound like a typical dyed in the wool Tory.

Please tell us more about your extensive reading.

The AIBU thread I linked to is instructive. This move is clearly not about causing Labour voters to vote Conservative, although some might. It's about causing uncertainty and dissent amongst Labour voters to suppress the vote. It's going to have some effect although it'll be a while before we see how much.

What is it with Scotland. Even the Scottish Tories don’t support Boris on this.

Try living in Scotland. No one to vote. Women. Is anyone who wants to be

Women are no one anymore.

Nothing people. That’s women in Scotland

I mean pile on!

I’ve just written to my MP supporting the governments stance. Please do do the same. Stonewall are organizing a mass pike on to MPs

The subject is popular, it's also in AIBU:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/a4523391-I-agree-with-Boris

[quote crispsarny]@MangyInseam condescending & wrong.[/quote]
Read the kinds of comments people make on threads. They are clear and unequivocal.

If you vote Tory you are voting for stealing from the poor to give to the rich. You don't care about the lot of those who are less well off. Tories believe women should stay in their boxes. Boris wants women chained to the sink. Tories don't care about women. Tories are homophobic. Tories are racists.

It's actually kind of shocking the comments that get made.

Shrugs. Are women supposed to care about the Labour Party when they have shown their contempt for women?

Boris would have been a fool not to capitalise on the opportunity.

It's the first time I've ever agreed with him - but I guess that's what he's looking for .... however whilst I work 2 jobs yet still can not afford to keep my DD's warm and fed or offer them opportunities that might shape their futures in a positive way, I'm not going to vote Tory anytime soon.

Parties are supposed to listen to voters and represent the majority view. The left leaning parties are not doing this on this issue it’s really really weird. It’s not self Id it’s self annihilation.

Would you apply the same logic to Labour on this? Their goal is clearly to drive away certain voters who normally would vote for them.

This.

Sometimes I honestly wonder if Labour, the Lib-Dems - and especially the Greens - were infiltrated years ago by undercover agents, with the sole goal of destroying the parties' political credibility. We have a situation where these parties' activists care more about pronouns than ever being in power to effect any of their other policies. It's insane.

Why is Labour not dropping policies like self-ID in order to gain more votes?

@MangyInseam condescending & wrong.

@SelfPortraitWithPterodactyl thank you for your understanding.

I'm not sure how realistic that is though. Any PM or party leader is going to have their own views on issues. Then there are the views of the other MPs, which they can't ignore. Then there are the views of party members, which they can't ignore. Then there are the views of their own constituents which they are meant to represent and which they need to consider to be re-elected. Then there are the views of the voters in general.

No one in the world is going to be able to have an entire party platform that aligns with their personal views. And sometimes there may be issues where their own views are quite different than those of the party or the people, and they will have to keep quiet about it.