Boris Speaks!

Alicia Kearns in the Times today:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f5f4a80a-b5e1-11ec-8c29-375fe0cc1f19?shareToken=e15020e28647a5112a145311438e46da

If you are sure that there is no real question as to their competence, why worry about the question being asked? Because the idea that we'd be afraid to put issues to the test because it breaks some political orthodoxy is always going to end up being bad for kids.

These kinds of questions are not as straightforward as people sometimes think. You are talking about kids who are not legally able to have sex - accessing services like that can be a flag to parents that they are being abused or exploited among other things, and parents are always the people most likely to be on their kid's side. Not doctors or clinic workers.

These are not the discussions that should be shut down, that's the whole point of being able to make these assessments.

[quote crispsarny]@MangyInseam I know the comments that are made but to imply that the Tories are innocent, when they continue to fuck over women, children, the poor, disabled, minorities is some next level bullshit. The leader of the Tory party Boris Johnson called gay men tank topped bum boys, compared Muslim women to letterboxes, labelled black Africans Piccaninnies with water melon smiles, also that the problem with Africa is that we are not in charge any more. Tell me what’s wrong with all this?

www.businessinsider.com/boris-johnson-record-sexist-homophobic-and-racist-comments-bumboys-piccaninnies-2019-6?amp

Positing yourself as someone who knows what the fucks going on, calling people stupid & uneducated is all kinds of wrong. You sound like a typical dyed in the wool Tory.

Please tell us more about your extensive reading.[/quote]
No one said they were "innocent" though that's a rather odd word to use about politics.

I suspect your political radar is a bit off, you might want to get it checked.

I don't particularly care about the personal foibles of political figures, they seem largely irrelevant to their political effectiveness. Some quite nasty people can be excellent in public life, not that I would put BJ at that level. Though I do often wonder how many people have actually read or listened to the things those quotes are pulled from.

I think he's scared of winning the election because then he'd have to move into the Downing Street apartment kept for the prime minister, and he absolutely hates what Boris and Carrie have done with the place.

What we need is a mockup rightmove profile of the flat, that is very deceptive flattering. For the sake of the greater good, I authorise any estate agent MNers to toss honesty in the bin and do your worst in the property description. Yes, unleash the dogs of war: Unique, Authentic Period Features and Bijou!

Once we have him hooked with a profile that would infringe advertising standards, then we lure the Johnsons out of Downing Street so he can have a viewing. Buy some partially-baked bread, and stick it in the oven before the appointment, so the aroma of baking bread can drift through the rooms.

Believing that males should not compete in women’s sport should not be a political position.

Neither should believing that women need and should have protected single sex spaces.

Both of these positions are logical, common sense, scientific, and pro-women. They are the position that anyone takes if they’re not an idiot.

It has become a political position because Labour, and other left wing parties around the world have taken a position against these two principles that is illogical, nonsensical, anti-scientific, and anti-women. They have taken the idiot’s position, the Flat Earther position.

If opposing politicians and parties see this, and publicly state their support for these two principles, it just means they’re not idiots regardless of anything else they may have done.

Not allowing males in female only spaces isn’t about putting trans people anywhere it is about females being safe and feeling safe

I'm not worried about sharing spaces with trans women.
I AM worried that so many people seem to think taking away bodily autonomy is a good thing.

At one point, a certain tax lawyer seemed to be arguing that children didn't need to consent to being put on medication to interfere with puberty, if their parents could consent for them. Which was a position too extreme for the Tavistock which had already said the child's assent was non-negotiable. And I should hope so too.

Lord Heseltine wasn't wrong.

So I still find it bizarre that Starmer is opting to bravely lie down in the road to be trampled, in the direct path of the crowd - and Johnson!

He cheated on his wife while she was suffering with cancer & then he cheated on that one, that’s how much Boris thinks of women.

Oh look here’s an article about it in the Tory rag @JDlaguar
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7345863/amp/Boris-Johnsons-estranged-wife-Marina-Wheeler-diagnosed-cervical-cancer-three-months-ago.html

I'm not worried about sharing spaces with trans women.
I AM worried that so many people seem to think taking away bodily autonomy is a good thing.
That they see Boris Johnson as a saviour for women and girls everywhere.
That they think the Daily Mail is a champion for women too (we all know how much they appreciate single mums, women's looks in the sidebar of shame etc etc etc)
Don't kid yourself they give a shit about women just because they are platforming trans issues.
They only do when it benefits them.
In this case, seems like putting trans people back in their box.

“Well, I think that you have to see Boris as a career map. He works it out, he decides which way the wind is blowing, and that wonderful phrase about a politician - a man who waits to see the way the crowd is running and then dashes in front and says, ‘Follow me’.”

Lord Heseltine

Calling people with legitimate concerns 'gammons' always goes so well in this country doesn't it? And this is why the left always fucks it up and loses support - they just can't help themselves from being dismissive and insulting!

This.

Daily Mail giving a shit about feminism and backing women
Really?!
They give as much a shit about feminism as BJ does.

All the Tory shills out in full force

Definitely!