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Boris Speaks!

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AndAsIfByMagic · 06/04/2022 12:23

Sky News.

He thinks it's unfair for biological men to compete in women's sports.

He says it's important to preserve women's spaces.

Says he has a lot to learn about the issue but we have to be sensible.

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Sexnotgender · 06/04/2022 13:59

@arethereanyleftatall

Lia and Emily's selfishness has caused so so much damage to the trans community.
But it’s not just them. They have been totally and wholeheartedly backup by those in charge of their teams. UPenn apparently said they would never back up a woman when a transwoman was involved. So we could and I’m sure will have many more Lia’s and Emily’s as the teams absolutely endorse their participation in women’s sport.
BellatrixOnABadDay · 06/04/2022 13:59

@EightMonthsScared

And this is why I vote Conservative.

Labour will never stand up for us. And I don't care if Boris is only saying this for popularity, we need people like him to say things like this.

I hope the tide is finally turning.

I don't think he is only saying it for popularity though. Don't get me wrong, Tory HQ are well aware of the absolute shitshow labour are making around these issues and are going to cynically capitalise on it. But I believe that what Boris said today is a rare example of absolute truth coming from him. Those were his own, genuine opinions.

Boris knows exactly what a woman is.

bellinisurge · 06/04/2022 13:55

@EightMonthsScared , sunlight pours in even through shitty dirty windows. I won't vote Tory but I won't vote Labour. And the only way Labour win next time is if they get comprehensive broad spectrum support.
They may not alienate every woman but they will alienate enough to hand this back to the Tories.

EightMonthsScared · 06/04/2022 13:53

And this is why I vote Conservative.

Labour will never stand up for us. And I don't care if Boris is only saying this for popularity, we need people like him to say things like this.

I hope the tide is finally turning.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/04/2022 13:48

@arethereanyleftatall

Lia and Emily's selfishness has caused so so much damage to the trans community.
Yet done so much to highlight the inherent unfairness to women of men in women's sport.
arethereanyleftatall · 06/04/2022 13:46

Lia and Emily's selfishness has caused so so much damage to the trans community.

bellinisurge · 06/04/2022 13:46

If that knobhead can say it why can't Starmer? He doesn't give a fuck about women or trans people but he knows an election winner when he sees it. He's laying down the gauntlet to Labour. He's setting some red lines and then saying the rest is up for discussion. It's not difficult but Labour have made it too easy for him. Interesting he talks about Gillick competency- he's done some reading on it in anticipation of journalistic enquiry.
Fuck you, Starmer for making me agree with that dickhead.

ChristinaXYZ · 06/04/2022 13:38

It is so good - they now need urgently to deal with annex B. I am single issue voter now and this, Boris's interview here, is what I want to see, and I want to see more of it. Great too that he separated the LGB and the T.

arethereanyleftatall · 06/04/2022 13:34

@JesusInTheCabbageVan

It's just something he's saying though. Given his track record, why on earth would you believe he (a) means it and (b) is going to do anything about it?
True, but maybe that doesn't matter. Maybe the fact that the prime minister is saying this will force sporting bodies and leisure centres, refugees etc to change their rules?
Sexnotgender · 06/04/2022 13:32

Will be interested to see if labour respond.

FatFucker · 06/04/2022 13:31

@Giggorata

This is the biggest attack on women's rights I can remember, and I am become a single issue voter because of it.

Agree. And it it looks like unfortunately I'll be voting for the Tories at the next election. As PPs have said this is my hill to die on.

tabbycatstripy · 06/04/2022 13:29

‘Given his track record, why on earth would you believe he (a) means it and (b) is going to do anything about it?’

I think he means it for the reason it’s easy to accept anyone would mean it: it’s common sense.

And he is doing things. He is resisting intense pressure to enact bad law.

Giggorata · 06/04/2022 13:28

This is the biggest attack on women's rights I can remember, and I am become a single issue voter because of it.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/04/2022 13:25

@JesusInTheCabbageVan

It's just something he's saying though. Given his track record, why on earth would you believe he (a) means it and (b) is going to do anything about it?
Well he didn't capitulate to the tantrums about trans and conversion therapy. He held the line and has clarified it with precisely the nuanced argument about children and Gillick, sport and single sex spaces that you can find on here. Loathe him as I do, I appreciate that this is the first time a party leader leading has spoken in this way.
Mxflamingnoravera · 06/04/2022 13:23

I wrote to my labour MP today to tell her to tune into MN to understand that women are deserting labour because of their inability to acknowledge biological facts. Not yet had a response.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/04/2022 13:22

Now that Johnson has spoken, I'm waiting to hear how the Labour Party responds. I'd really like to vote for them again but like so many women, won't while they hand wave away women's safety, rights sports and critically, child safeguarding.

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 06/04/2022 13:20

It's just something he's saying though. Given his track record, why on earth would you believe he (a) means it and (b) is going to do anything about it?

inmyslippers · 06/04/2022 13:18

It's my hill to die on too, as far as reasons for single issue voting go, the erasure of women is a pretty fucking important one!

^^ same sadly. I don't think the Tory's care about womens spaces but they'll clearly win votes just on this issue

arethereanyleftatall · 06/04/2022 13:11

@MsTSwift

They are so cynical and have seen the daily Mail comments sections with literally thousands of ticks on this.

That said I agree with them and reluctantly would vote for them as I cannot vote labour or Lib Dem as o usually do this is a hill I will die on.

100% agree with this. It's too important for me. Although well aware that even an imbecile, ironic, would have worked out given the current public voice, that knowing what a woman is is a good agenda to push atm.
tabbycatstripy · 06/04/2022 13:07

I’ve thought for a while that Johnson was reticent about these issues because he knows how committed the Biden administration is to trans rights. Looks like he’s reached the same conclusion the rest of us have about Sleepy Joe.

Signalbox · 06/04/2022 12:53

Well that's super clear isn't it?

twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1511669445877551104

Couchbettato · 06/04/2022 12:53

I'm still politically homeless.

Whatever comes out of that toupees mouth always does a 180°.

I don't think actual, considerate thought has gone on between his eyes. Ever. Not even just specifically about this issue.

Torunette · 06/04/2022 12:47

It is sad that it seems likely it is driven by the local elections, but that's the reality of a lot of politics and governance these days. Nothing travels to the front of the queue until folk make a fuss.

Floisme · 06/04/2022 12:46

I don't vote Tory but I still very much welcome their (finally) finding their spine and speaking some truth and common sense on the matter, because every time they do so, the more pressure will be heaped on the craven fools in charge of the Labour Party.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 06/04/2022 12:43

@AndAsIfByMagic

Sky News.

He thinks it's unfair for biological men to compete in women's sports.

He says it's important to preserve women's spaces.

Says he has a lot to learn about the issue but we have to be sensible.

Good. I'll be voting Tory. I do anyway but if he couldn't define a woman or protect womens spaces, then I'd be changing my vote to someone who could.