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Boris Speaks!

458 replies

AndAsIfByMagic · 06/04/2022 12:23

Sky News.

He thinks it's unfair for biological men to compete in women's sports.

He says it's important to preserve women's spaces.

Says he has a lot to learn about the issue but we have to be sensible.

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PurgatoryOfPotholes · 06/04/2022 15:51

@HellonHeels

And for all the labour supporters coming onto this thread - Labour party (with a few hugely brave exceptions like Rosie Duffield) doesn't give a fuck about women. Until they do, they are not worthy of my vote.
This is what gives me the greatest pause about the Labour party as a whole- their institutional abuse of Rosie Duffield.

She's an actual MP, who managed to turn a traditionally blue seat red in 2017, and actually kept it in 2019 when Labour lost other seats. If they'll treat her like this, how will they treat any other woman after the election?

Swayingpalmtrees · 06/04/2022 15:48

I was delighted to hear him speak so clearly and coherently about his stance on women's sports and spaces. There was no question about his position at all.

We are looking at a breakthrough - on many different fronts, but the PM actually standing there and saying that so clearly has given me hope.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 06/04/2022 15:47

and you think the Tories give a rat's arse about your daughter? Seriously?

Don't hit quote until you've at least finished reading the sentence.

I'll supply the second half for you.

You know what, I am not going to vote for anyone who not only does not give a rat's arse about me or my daughter but says that acknowledging the root of our oppression is hateful

The not only... but sentence structure is a useful one.

Neverreturntoathread · 06/04/2022 15:47

I hate Boris, but he is a political weather-vane. He stopped supporting ‘remain in EU’ because he knew Brexit would win. If Boris thinks transwomen should stop trampling over women’s rights, then it’s because he knows the vast majority of the country feel that way, no matter how many lobbyists flounce out of “lbgt+q*%xyz conferences” or whatever. Boris knows which strategy is going to win the next election.

And ugh he’s probably right. I hate him SO much, and I quite like Kier Starmer (go donkey sanctuary!) but if there was an election tmrw I would vote for Boris 🙈 because all the other parties are ok with transwomen taking over women’s safe spaces and sports and talking to primary school kids about anal sex and life-changing drugs, and I am not ok with any of that.

MarshaBradyo · 06/04/2022 15:45

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

Starmer has been dancing up and down beside that open goal for months. So have the Lib-Dems.

I was beginning to wonder if Johnson should have gone to Specsavers/a drive to test his eyesight, on account of how he kept failing to notice it.

Dancing beside open goal

Yep a good way to put it

I can’t see how they can change on it now they’ve staked their ground

HellonHeels · 06/04/2022 15:45

And for all the labour supporters coming onto this thread - Labour party (with a few hugely brave exceptions like Rosie Duffield) doesn't give a fuck about women. Until they do, they are not worthy of my vote.

CatherinaJTV · 06/04/2022 15:44

@SelfPortraitWithPterodactyl

Fuck you, Starmer for making me agree with that dickhead.

Can we get postcards made, please?

Also please just stop with the vote-shaming. "Rabid"? "Lost all sense of proportion"? You know what, I am not going to vote for anyone who not only does not give a rat's arse about me or my daughter but says that acknowledging the root of our oppression is hateful. And given that this is about 51% of the population, the 51% that is poorer and more vulnerable and systematically undervalued and also that takes on the greater share of nurturing the next generation, if Keir fucking Starmer or anyone else dares to think we should suck it up, hold our noses and vote for the "real" issues they can fuck off until they cannot fuck off any more. Labour have lost my vote and it is THEIR OWN FUCKING FAULT.

and you think the Tories give a rat's arse about your daughter? Seriously?
Needmoresleep · 06/04/2022 15:44

So catherina, are you arguing that because a Christian groups says so Boris should be calling for an abortion ban .

You really do have an odd set of views.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 06/04/2022 15:44

Starmer has been dancing up and down beside that open goal for months. So have the Lib-Dems.

I was beginning to wonder if Johnson should have gone to Specsavers/a drive to test his eyesight, on account of how he kept failing to notice it.

SelfPortraitWithPterodactyl · 06/04/2022 15:43

Fuck you, Starmer for making me agree with that dickhead.

Can we get postcards made, please?

Also please just stop with the vote-shaming. "Rabid"? "Lost all sense of proportion"? You know what, I am not going to vote for anyone who not only does not give a rat's arse about me or my daughter but says that acknowledging the root of our oppression is hateful. And given that this is about 51% of the population, the 51% that is poorer and more vulnerable and systematically undervalued and also that takes on the greater share of nurturing the next generation, if Keir fucking Starmer or anyone else dares to think we should suck it up, hold our noses and vote for the "real" issues they can fuck off until they cannot fuck off any more. Labour have lost my vote and it is THEIR OWN FUCKING FAULT.

SerendipityJane · 06/04/2022 15:42

The fact that anybody believes this claptrap on the same day manifesto breaking tax and Ni rises are being felt across the country beggars belief.

How stupid are some people ?

CatherinaJTV · 06/04/2022 15:40

What has he said: protect children from making irreversible decisions

Well yes...

christianconcern.com/comment/women-must-be-told-the-truth-about-abortion/

JoodyBlue · 06/04/2022 15:38

What has he said: protect children from making irreversible decisions, or least ensure parental support; protect women's sport; protect women's spaces. The thing he missed was language, but then that was implied because he said "women". Who could possibly argue against that. I will be very interested to see any other party try.

The cross party campaign to "respect my sex" starts to bear fruit.

HellonHeels · 06/04/2022 15:37

Looks like I'm voting Tory for the first time. Like many others I'm now a single-issue voter.

If the Labour party manages to clean up the utter shitshow it's become, I may return in future. But I fear they've lost my vote forever. And the libdems and the greens and the WEP.

Needmoresleep · 06/04/2022 15:37

Tge Mail article is up to 1.2k comments overwhelmingly favourable.

Has Stamer just gifted Boris an open goal right before local government elections.

MarshaBradyo · 06/04/2022 15:32

I remember on an earlier thread someone turning up to scoff about no one cared etc

Looks like the issue is gaining ground markedly

No less to many on here. Good job

CatherinaJTV · 06/04/2022 15:31

@Signalbox

well yes, hence, NOT women

So girls then?

most of them, yes
Theeyeballsinthefuckingsky · 06/04/2022 15:30

Well quelle surprise that we have visitors turning up to tell us how awful we are

Yes dreadful old us for wanting to preserve womens sports for Women, keep men out of Women’s refuges & rape support groups and keep children off life altering medication until they can make an informed choice

Signalbox · 06/04/2022 15:29

well yes, hence, NOT women

So girls then?

MyNameIsAngelicaSchuyler · 06/04/2022 15:27

Shit. Never voted Tory in my life but if Labour don’t respond I might well do so.

MarshaBradyo · 06/04/2022 15:27

@Datun

Women!! Don't you know your safety and dignity isn't important? You are only allowed to care about the systematic unravelling of your rights after the rest of the world is enjoying peace, harmony, prosperity and a hard boiled egg.

... that you made.

Grin
CatherinaJTV · 06/04/2022 15:26

@Signalbox

i.e. under 18s (since we are talking Gillick)

Gillick is for under 16.

well yes, hence, NOT women
CatherinaJTV · 06/04/2022 15:26

the issue at hand: conversion therapy on trans individuals, has little to do with access to sports.

Signalbox · 06/04/2022 15:25

i.e. under 18s (since we are talking Gillick)

Gillick is for under 16.

Needmoresleep · 06/04/2022 15:23

Catherina. No need to add other issues.

What is it about Boris' statement on trans issues that you disagree with. Surely like other mums here you care strongly about the medication of children and about girls abilty to access sport in a way that is fair and that allows them to compete equally.

Or are you one of the outlier 3% who don't. If so why?