Boris Speaks!

and you think the Tories give a rat's arse about your daughter
Seriously

Well no its boris after all. He would more likely want to chain her to the kitchen sink, but at least he recognises she is a woman.
We get our single sex spaces back just by voting for a moron, we can work on the kitchen sink bit after torys get in.
^ this is just the reverse of so many people saying vote labour THEN fight for your rights to be represented and your single sex spaces back.
At least my way we get our spaces back first. Smaller hill to climb.

Yep, exactly that.

The next election may well be fought on the single issue of ‘do women exist’

^this!

We are may be freezing and starving, which is likely under any party to be fair because it is a global issue and a war, at least I will still have an identity and my girls will be at less risk in hospitals, changing rooms and toilets when they are not forced to share with bio men.
For me it is more important than anything else - why wouldn't it be? Anyone minimising this issue are either completely thick or male or both.

Person A who disagrees with T in female spaces is too afraid to speak.

Gobby Woman, who is prepared to put herself on the line, does the job.

Cheers and some vilification for Gobby Woman, but on the whole, she's brought around a shift in the narrative that's helped all women.

Person A says, I was GC all the way too, yay me, I'm part of this, let me reflect in Gobby's glory.

Person A then turns on Gobby, the job having been done, and says, Ooh, you are too militant, you consort with the wrong sort, I would never have done it the way you did it, you need to shut up now.

Person A gets round of applause for her moderate and "reasonable" stance from all the other "Person As" who also sat back and let Gobby do the hard yards.

We know that 12 years of Tory rule has hurt women across the country.

Right now women have a choice.

The Tory party do not particularly care about us, but neither are they openly hostile. Right now, they are definitely moving in the right direction.

Labour are actively hostile to women who want to protect their sex based rights. Complete silence on women being raped, hounded out of their jobs and threatened (expect the Tory party to start using the copious real life examples of this very soon, they know which way the wind is headed). And unfortunately not silent when it comes to publicly coming out with ridiculous reality denying slogans and complete guff (babies are born without a sex ) and asserting that they will set womens rights back 100 years at least (self-ID, kicking dissenting women from the party).

For me it seems a very simple choice.

One party is clearly offering to recognise what a woman is, even if they aren’t bothered about doing much else.

The other is offering to permanently dismantle the meaning of the word ‘woman’, and in so doing, remove much of our ability to fight back.

No brainer.

Well he's a liar, a cheat and as corrupt as they come. So good luck to those who believe him.

^this

Yes@CatherinaJTV. We know. We know that Boris is a lying hypocrite who impoverished the country to get a promotion and then presided over a string of parties during lockdown while others were fined £10000. We did notice that.

But every other party is chanting “transwomen are women” while lobbying for the erasure of women’s safe spaces and dignity and throwing away children’s safeguarding procedures. So there is no one else to vote for.

It sucks.

Quite. Why do you think we are so furious with Labour? Many of us would love to vote for a left-wing party/credible opposition. That is exactly the point.

you say that like it's a good thing. Nevermind people starve or freeze to death, as long as there is no trans person in your library's toilets (what library, you may ask, after 12 years of Tory rule)

So why are Starmer et al prioritising a hypothetical commitment to give transwo men access to toilets, over gaining the power to prevent people freezing and starving to death?

Why is this a line they'd rather not cross than get elected?

Yes @CatherinaJTV. We know. We know that Boris is a lying hypocrite who impoverished the country to get a promotion and then presided over a string of parties during lockdown while others were fined £10000. We did notice that.

But every other party is chanting “transwomen are women” while lobbying for the erasure of women’s safe spaces and dignity and throwing away children’s safeguarding procedures. So there is no one else to vote for.

It sucks.

If any of the other parties would like to grow a pair and stop reading the Stonewall/Mermaids script then I would absolutely love to vote for them instead.

The next election may well be fought on the single issue of ‘do women exist’.

I wonder how many female voters there are in Britain 🧐

Yes, Catherina, this may all be true. The fact remains that we are being asked to choose between someone who says something that we think is on the side of truth, justice and equality - knowing him to be an unscrupulous dick - and someone who, although he is probably less of a wanker, is spouting a rigid, misogynistic, hateful ideology in spite of knowing that it hurts women. You advise us to choose the latter. I remain unconvinced.

This is the perfect moment for a group of male sports personalities to form a group to talk about how they would love to include transwomen on their teams.

I suspect the issue isn't that men won't include TW it's that TW don't want to complete with other men. Emily Bridges was still competing with men very recently. Lia Thomas spent 2 years on the men's team. Maxine Blythin plays on both the men's and women's teams. TW aren't being thrown out of men's teams are they? I imagine it would be headline news if they were.

tim I don't think he will actually need your vote lovely, he is looking at another landslide after this shift in policy.

He will say whatever gives him and the Tories your vote and then continue to enact policies that impoverish the country (hitting women and girls particularly hard), he won't fund courts (to find justice after rape for example), he will protect the head of the Met Police, despite one rotten apple after the other, etc etc.

So what are the other parties doing to win our votes?

Women's rights a non issue? Do you even know where this could actually lead to if someone doesn't take a firm stance?

Doesn't change a thing for me still not voting Conservative.

He will say whatever gives him and the Tories your vote and then continue to enact policies that impoverish the country (hitting women and girls particularly hard), he won't fund courts (to find justice after rape for example), he will protect the head of the Met Police, despite one rotten apple after the other, etc etc.

This really should give more people the bravery they need to speak up.

I know some men have been speaking out, often at great personal cost, but they are few and far between.

This is the perfect moment for a group of male sports personalities to form a group to talk about how they would love to include transwomen on their teams.

Men being inclusive of transwomen is the way forward.

and you think the Tories give a rat's arse about your daughter? Seriously?

At least Johnson seems to recognise she is a daughter! I am not sure Starmer could even answer that if asked tomorrow.

I will hold my nose and vote for ANY party that will ensure my dds and I are not erased. I don't actually give a damn about other issues as much as this one! It boils down to priorities, and for me this comes at the top of the list.

So watch out Labour, whatever backroom deals you have agreed with the activists - this will be your undoing.

Trying to patronise us, infantilise us, condescend to us doesn't make us want to vote your way.

and you think the Tories give a rat's arse about your daughter? Seriously?

Not sure I'm voting Tory, but you're missing the point. I don't care why the Tories hold this line, as long as they do. If they do it purely to win my vote - fine. That is exactly the way democracy works: a political party has an incentive to reflect the wishes of the electorate. Labour are so wedded to misogynistic ideology that they have deliberately sacrificed my vote. That's unforgiveable.