Boris Speaks!

But neither do I believe I am stupid for deciding to actively support a party who is heading the direction I want it to, on an issue that is vitally important to me. Whilst also actively preventing the party who wants to destroy my rights from getting in to power.

I live in a previously ‘red wall’ area. The local Tory MP has been active and very helpful both in the community and me personally (pip tribunal). If Labour decides to keep pandering to a small fringe of lunatic activists rather than protecting women and children, I will vote to keep my mp in place. And also in the upcoming council elections, as I believe the Tory’s will be watching to see just how strongly women feel about this.

Pleased about what BJ said today. but I will never ever vote Tory because of this. People are deluded if they think that Tory policies ever favour women. The 12 years of Tory rule have been devastating for women in the material sense.

I'll be repeating what others have said but it doesn't really matter.

There's this belief that Starmer will stand up for women. How is that going to happen when he claims not to have a proper understanding of what women are?

If the choice is between someone who everyone knows who is unscrupulous vs someone who is convinced that even if he's harming women's rights, because he's righteous and morally superior, the harm doesn't actually exist, well, I'd take unscrupulous.

I have a sense that that the fundamental changes Labour want to make will take a generation or more to undo.

Do you intend to spoil your ballot or vote for your own erasure scary?

@Swayingpalmtrees Angela Rayner did just that. Apparently Boris is wrong.

Most people I know are swing voters. They may not nail their colours to the mast in the same way they did in 1970s. Most people make their political assessment rightly or wrongly looking at the least bad option.

It is why we do still have landslides and how parties can come roaring back strongly with the right policies and people. Labour in my view had it all to lose, we have had a very long period of Conservative rule, many people were looking for a change and recharge at the helm. Jeremy was banished and it looked for a while like Labour could indeed become a serious contender...and then Starmer opened his mouth and since then Labour's chances have tanked.
Not only is he a terrible orator, wooden and lacking in charm, but the policies of the party are totally invisible to everyone. They still have no coherent policies on anything! And the final nail into the coffin of their chances of a win in the next election is Starmer failing to recognise 51% of his potential electorate despite sitting next to MPs that are women, a wife and daughter that I assume he can see are women!

Labour have created this shit show, and now Johnson has taken the gloves off and thrown down the gauntlet today.....what will Labour's response be?

I am guessing they will scream blue murder that he is a transphobe and does not understand the trans community watch this space. What else can they do now. They have boxed themselves into a very small corner.

Agree with Boris but am not going to fall for voting Tory ..am not that stupid!

[quote Signalbox]Well that's super clear isn't it?

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Crystal clear!

I'm gob-smacked actually. Well done Boris. He clearly knows far more about the complexities of the issue than he's letting on.

The bullying by TRAs was just getting too much. They thought they had so much power over the government, and just about everyone. It's obvious they've overreached when they start demanding the EHRC isn't listened to. Who the fuck do they think they are? The policing of speech had gone too far.

I'm no Boris fan, or Conservative supporter, but blimey it is refreshing to hear this.

Labour have to get real and start admitting they were wrong on the subject now.

"Oh for goodness' sake. WE KNOW. " well said. @SelfPortraitWithPterodactyl
We fucking know and we still won't vote Labour while they don't respect women. Biological women.

Well I am have been a Labour member and activist for the last 2 years and unless Keir gets his act together pretty soon I won’t be either of those things for much longer.

The Labour Party isn’t entitled to anybody’s votes. It has to earn them. Lots of people are single issue voters (remember Brexit?). Tough. Suck it up. If the Labour Party can’t get its policy and its message right on the single issue, it loses. As we have seen.

And telling people to hold their noses and vote for the greater good doesn’t work. Remember the sainted Jeremy? And all those people saying vote for him in 2019 despite all that pesky anti semitism in the party, you must think of the Greater Good? That didn’t work either.

So what are you going to do, Labour Party?
Are you going to let a serially incompetent government make a fool of you?
Are you going to let a proven liar look plainspeaking and truthful in comparison to you?
Are you going to risk throwing away an election all because of one single issue?

Your move.

self Yes one is definitely enough for most of us!

Johnson could grow seven heads

I mean, I sympathise with the sentiment, but this is an image that may haunt my nightmares...

Well he's a liar, a cheat and as corrupt as they come. So good luck to those who believe him.

Oh for goodness' sake. WE KNOW.

Which would you vote for, then? An unscrupulous, self-interested politician whose only real concern is to get and keep your vote, or a ideologue who is so full of puritan zeal that he will willingly sacrifice your vote rather than take any notice of opposing views? The great advantage of democracy (you'd think) is that it is designed to represent the voters' views. A sensible politician will capitalise on that, to everyone's benefit. The fact that Labour think that is beneath them is their own downfall.

I will also my safety as a woman is paramount.
Absolutely non negotiable.

If Starmer doesn't even know I exist how on god's holy earth can he protect me? Protect my rights? Stand up for my interests and needs. If he can't even identify 51% of the nation, how can we possibly vote for him under any circumstances?

Johnson could grow seven heads and I would still vote for him if he is willing to recognise the hard issues and make a stand for us, and make some in roads to correct the huge mistakes that have been made.

‘and you think the Tories give a rat's arse about your daughter? Seriously?’

I do. My MP has been pretty good and open-minded. Tory. And knew I was a Labour voter.

Great tweet:

‘Boris just made Labour the party that’s coming for your children’ genius!

About time someone had the balls to say it. Hopefully now the rest of us will be allowed an opinion.

Good. What are you going to do now Keir ?