Boris Speaks!

[quote crispsarny]@TeenPlusCat so it didn’t happen on their watch/did happen on their watch.[/quote]
It has happened while the Tories were in power, but not because of anything they actively did. Whereas Labour have been happily spouting off TWAW etc. There are lots of things you can lay at the door of the Conservatives, but not the horror show of Girl Guides, NHS etc.

[quote crispsarny]@Unsure33 of course you can vote for who you want to, where did I say you couldn’t? Like you can vote for who you want to I have a right to my own opinion along with as many FUCKING sweary FUCKING words as I FUCKING well like![/quote]
I never said you couldn’t. I just said it might actually put people off your point . You feel free to swear as much as you want. You obviously think it makes your points clearer .

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I IMO a think it’s foul mouthed .

Starmer has really fucked up on this issue, i am soo gutted that i actually have more confidencein Boris.
I'm not sure my hand will actually obey a command from my brain to put an x in the Tory box but I cannot vote for Labour while they are shafting women and girls. Safety, respect, dignity and privacy are too fundamental to ignore. I will never trust Labour till they sort their shit out and stop prioritising feelings over safety.

@TeenPlusCat so it didn’t happen on their watch/did happen on their watch.

For goodness sake, I have just seen the Scottish Tories are trying to be different. Grr idiots.

@Unsure33 of course you can vote for who you want to, where did I say you couldn’t? Like you can vote for who you want to I have a right to my own opinion along with as many FUCKING sweary FUCKING words as I FUCKING well like!

Trying to run down a party to influence others is wrong .And in fact I think quite patronising.

It’s about choosing what the least bad.

For me Johnson has all the hallmarks of someone who is slowly but surely implementing a dictatorial system, erasing all form of dissents (see Chanel 4 , right to protest, justice system on its knees etc…) whilst keeping the population poor so their concerns are about putting food in the table/surviving rather than ‘rights’.
LD and Labour have their own issues but at least I’m holding the hope that things can be changed with public pressure. Whereas I don’t with BJ.

I also don’t believe women’s right will be anything but protected if our human rights charter is being disbanded.

Basically I’m choosing not to ignore the consequences of supporting someone who has proven how ruthless he is and how little care he has for us, the population (let alone women).

Plus if I’m honest, is he not going to do yet another U turn, like he has done on so many subjects? Can anyone rely on him doing what he said he was going to do?

I think you will find a lot of people won’t be swayed by foul mouth ranting .

We loose these rights, and we nearly have already, we'll never get them back.

I can’t vote for them look at what they’ve done to this country, they are evil criminals, robbing fucking scumbags, sold our country off to dodgy foreign regimes, look at what they’ve done to us all, continuously playing every single section of society off, they hate women, the poor, the disabled, anyones fair game for a good kicking with these toffy nose shits. Look at the shite us women have had to endure these past years because of this government, we’re so worn down by it all that we are greatful for support & kind words from Boris, he’s a bullshitter, they all are!

Calling people with legitimate concerns 'gammons' always goes so well in this country doesn't it? And this is why the left always fucks it up and loses support - they just can't help themselves from being dismissive and insulting!

I’ve emailed my Tory, female, MP to say I’m pleased to hear some sense for once from her leader and others, reminded her that she was very dismissive of my concerns when I raised them with her a couple of years ago, and said I hope she’s changed her mind now.

This makes no difference to me, fucking women over has happened on their watch, didn’t they put the GRC up for consultation? Elections coming up that’s the only reason Boris is saying this. NONE of the political parties give a shiny shit about women especially the Tories.

Just in case my post looks targeted at those voting Labour, I fully support posters to vote for who they want, whether that's Labour, Conservative, or whoever. The thing I cannot stand is those posters who are saying that someone has to vote in a certain way.

Is it his key party members pushing it or funding

[quote SelfPortraitWithPterodactyl]Yes@CatherinaJTV. We know. We know that Boris is a lying hypocrite who impoverished the country to get a promotion and then presided over a string of parties during lockdown while others were fined £10000. We did notice that.

But every other party is chanting “transwomen are women” while lobbying for the erasure of women’s safe spaces and dignity and throwing away children’s safeguarding procedures. So there is no one else to vote for.

It sucks.

Quite. Why do you think we are so furious with Labour? Many of us would love to vote for a left-wing party/credible opposition. That is exactly the point.[/quote]
This this this!!!!

Surely it's obvious that the solution is for Labour to move to a rational position that has general support by the public rather than one based on identity politics activism of an extreme sort, and that the way to enable this solution is for voters to turn their back on what Labour is offering. That's what's happening in this thread. Labour are not going to move to rationality as a result of being supported by their natural voters who absolutely loathe what they're offering.

This is how democracy works. But some people seem to think it working in this way is wrong.

Let’s not forget that JKR called out Keir Starmer, QC and former head of the CPS, for misrepresenting the Equality Act. Why is someone with such a close relationship to the law allowing this ideology to ride roughshod over it? Not to mention undermining his own credibility in the process. That is really concerning from someone so supposedly principled.

Yep, Roses, I think we all agree it's politically savvy. No one here is naively saying, "Ah, aren't they wonderful, I didn't realise," you know. So how should women vote, if this is the hill we'd die on? And please don't say choose another hill.

However much I agree with Johnson on this issue I really couldn’t bring myself to vote for the tories. Still think it’s a cynical ploy to win votes and they care as much for women’s rights as they do poverty and inequality- which is actually very little. Couldn’t live with another 5 years of austerity. Just hope this will spur Starmer on to say something similar (although hasn’t he said something already in the same vein)

I'm spoiling my paper. Again. If that means tbe Tories end up winning again, it's not on me. I have no one to vote for. And I will not vote to erase women.