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Companies that nailed their colours to the mast early on in the gender debate

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Jessasamantha · 04/04/2022 15:42

38 degrees petition site prompted a memory the other day about them taking down a petition calling for a debate on the GRA, which was then followed by a petition calling out 38 degrees on Change. Found it here

www.change.org/p/38-degrees-38-degrees-stop-silencing-and-censoring-women

Which got me thinking about all of the other companies who made it very clear they were not on the side of women early on in the debate, who perhaps may be reconsidering their misogyny and hoping that we might have forgotten. I have some vague memory of Co-op in the early days refusing to provide banking services to one of the first grass roots women's groups, can anyone confirm? Also Ocado, who sided with Primesight after they took down Kellie-Jay Keen's adult human female advert?

Any others from the early years?

OP posts:
PamDenick · 04/04/2022 22:41

Weren’t Innocent Smoothie horrible to a nice older lady on Twitter and showed themselves to be horrendous bullies?
And The Body Ship are bastards.

Andante57 · 04/04/2022 22:36

I mean I love your comment about firing lush products into space - not I love Lush.

Andante57 · 04/04/2022 22:35

@DomesticatedZombie

The problem with closing Lush shops is how you dispose of the contents - some people say it should be buried underground until the smell finally wears off, but others are in favour of firing it into space. The thought of billions of bath bombs appearing in international airspace is possibly not going to be countenanced right now - the only solution - keep the shops open.

I imagine.

I love it
LittleWhingingWoman · 04/04/2022 22:20

@DomesticatedZombie

I'm not honestly sure what the half life is for Lush products.
Covered in dust and dirt, no quality control, dropped on the floor, touched by hundreds of people and then put in your bath so you can get thrush. Lush is the TRA secret weapon.
ahagwearsapointybonnet · 04/04/2022 22:15

@TheirEminence

Every single company that contributed to that full-page advert in the Evening Standard promoting GRA reform.
If you mean the Stonewall one TheirEminence, I seem to remember there were suggestions at least some of the orgs involved had not been properly told how their names would be used, and that the ad would link through to Stonewall's take on how to fill in the consultation, and that some of them weren't particularly happy about it when they found out.... So they may not all be as bad as they could be, though they were all in the Stonewall scheme. (Some were also public sector/Civil Service orgs that are meant to avoid taking political positions, too, so they might have had more reason to be unhappy!)
DomesticatedZombie · 04/04/2022 22:06

I'm not honestly sure what the half life is for Lush products.

Cuck00soup · 04/04/2022 22:03

@DomesticatedZombie

The problem with closing Lush shops is how you dispose of the contents - some people say it should be buried underground until the smell finally wears off, but others are in favour of firing it into space. The thought of billions of bath bombs appearing in international airspace is possibly not going to be countenanced right now - the only solution - keep the shops open.

I imagine.

Could you entomb them in concrete for a couple of centuries?

DelurkingLawyer · 04/04/2022 21:49

Oh and while I can’t remember the Co-op bank story, they certainly threatened to pull their ads from the Spectator, which went really well: www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-spectator-the-co-op-and-cancel-culture-a-cautionary-tale/amp

DelurkingLawyer · 04/04/2022 21:44

Whoever it is who makes Flora (pulled their advertising from Mumsnet). I have never bought it since.

WhyThatsDelightful · 04/04/2022 21:42

Barclays pushing pronouns to be nice

WinterTrees · 04/04/2022 21:40

This has reminded me of the absolute landslide of one star Ocado reviews on trustpilot that followed the billboard incident. Hundreds of them. 'Twas a beautiful thing.

On the other hand, I recall Arla standing firm in the face of TRA tantrumming, though I don't remember the details. I have bought their Skyr weekly since then though. (Which just goes to prove that old saying - you can't always remember what someone said, but you remember how they made you feel.)

I no longer buy Method cleaning stuff.

Tiphaine · 04/04/2022 21:34

I remember when Lush opened in Kingston. Chemical warfare is right! The entire market square REEKED. I would boycott them, but I've never bought anything from them the smell is so awful.

Coolabula · 04/04/2022 21:28

Dove
Innocent Drinks

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 04/04/2022 19:20

@DomesticatedZombie

The problem with closing Lush shops is how you dispose of the contents - some people say it should be buried underground until the smell finally wears off, but others are in favour of firing it into space. The thought of billions of bath bombs appearing in international airspace is possibly not going to be countenanced right now - the only solution - keep the shops open.

I imagine.

Perfect
teawamutu · 04/04/2022 19:18

John Lewis.

nepeta · 04/04/2022 19:13

@VelvetChairGirl

I cant even spell warfare
I like 'chemical warefare!'

It deserves to exist as a word.

VelvetChairGirl · 04/04/2022 19:10

I cant even spell warfare

VelvetChairGirl · 04/04/2022 19:09

@DomesticatedZombie

The problem with closing Lush shops is how you dispose of the contents - some people say it should be buried underground until the smell finally wears off, but others are in favour of firing it into space. The thought of billions of bath bombs appearing in international airspace is possibly not going to be countenanced right now - the only solution - keep the shops open.

I imagine.

chemical warefare
VelvetChairGirl · 04/04/2022 19:08

@PenguindreamsofDraco

Lush.
I keep seeing them advertising for staff, I will not apply hopefully no woman is and thats why they keep advertising.
Random789 · 04/04/2022 18:57

(I said Cardiff when I meant Carlisle. Apologies. That happens to me a lot.)

Random789 · 04/04/2022 18:56

Lololol DomesticatedZombie Grin.

I still haven't forgotten the experience of walking past a Lush shop in Cardiff. It felt like some sort of chemical warfare incident.

Annasgirl · 04/04/2022 18:53

@DomesticatedZombie

The problem with closing Lush shops is how you dispose of the contents - some people say it should be buried underground until the smell finally wears off, but others are in favour of firing it into space. The thought of billions of bath bombs appearing in international airspace is possibly not going to be countenanced right now - the only solution - keep the shops open.

I imagine.

😂😂😂😂😂
DomesticatedZombie · 04/04/2022 18:51

The problem with closing Lush shops is how you dispose of the contents - some people say it should be buried underground until the smell finally wears off, but others are in favour of firing it into space. The thought of billions of bath bombs appearing in international airspace is possibly not going to be countenanced right now - the only solution - keep the shops open.

I imagine.

Andante57 · 04/04/2022 18:19

@PenguindreamsofDraco

Lush.
No surprise there. They’ve also kept their shops in Russia open (but there may be a reason why they can’t shut them).
TheirEminence · 04/04/2022 18:12

Aviva (and sorry OP, you already mentioned Ocado)

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