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DomesticatedZombie · 04/04/2022 09:35

Welcome.

If you're new to Mumsnet and/or the 'gender' debate, and have questions, fire away.

Plenty of knowledgable women here happy to help you out. Smile

We can provide links, evidence and explainers for many of the issues, and point you to further actions and ways to help.

Dive in!

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FemaleAndLearning · 06/04/2022 23:56

Mr Menno, is on you tube. Gay man who knows what a woman is. He us funny and does done singing.
He is often at Speakers Corner/Reformers Tree in Hyde Park with Kelly-Jay Keen (aka Posie Parker, Standing for Women), last Sunday in the month.

FemaleAndLearning · 06/04/2022 20:20

Quarterly magazine
theradicalnotion.org/
Dr Clare Jane Jones from twitter fame.

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DomesticatedZombie · 05/04/2022 10:49

Women's Declaration International:

womensdeclaration.com/en/about/

(A recent Green Party motion, thankfully voted down at conference, proposed ejecting women who'd signed this declaration from the Party).

In the US:

www.womensliberationfront.org/

Ovarit:

ovarit.com/

Spinster:

spinster.xyz/

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Mummyoflittledragon · 05/04/2022 09:44

What a brilliant idea. Thank you for thread DomesticatedZombie.

Lest we forget. The formidable Magdalene Berns, who sadly died in 2019. She made a serious of pithy, sweary and very informative videos available on YouTube.

www.youtube.com/channel/UCvTTakI97sQ4SkMnsH8r0qQ

This is Alex Drummond, a very comfortably off counsellor with a beard and attitude. AD is ‘widening the bandwidth of what it is to be female’.

Noshowlomo · 05/04/2022 09:36

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Lots of GC accounts on instagram, presenting unbiased facts about the debate and issues in the news at present

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DomesticatedZombie · 05/04/2022 09:33

Treatment of children:

Cass report (interim review)

cass.independent-review.uk/publications/interim-report/

Tavistock:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56539466

Hannah Barnes/ Newsnight

www.transgendertrend.com/bbc-newsnight-tavistock-gids/

Dr Webberley - Michael - currently on tribunal

twitter.com/tribunaltweets2/status/1508450051886096385

Helen Webberley - awaiting further tribunal

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4288795-Helen-Webberley

Detransitioners network:

thedetransitionadv.wixsite.com/detransadnet/about

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ServantofthePeople · 05/04/2022 09:32

Expose of Dentons here.

www.rollonfriday.com/news-content/dentons-campaigns-kids-switch-gender-without-parental-approval.

Hardly recommended reading material or interesting work unless you are being ironic.

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DomesticatedZombie · 05/04/2022 09:28

A series of podcasts on Stonewall's influence by Steven Nolan @ the BBC.

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p09yjmph

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DomesticatedZombie · 05/04/2022 09:28

@ServantofthePeople

Op is the reference to Dentons ironic?
Hmm? How do you mean?
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Waitwhat23 · 05/04/2022 09:01

'Transgender inclusion, fairness and safety often cannot co-exist' says major review'
www.bbc.com/sport/58732146

sex-matters.org/posts/updates/sports-guidance/

ServantofthePeople · 05/04/2022 08:53

Op is the reference to Dentons ironic?

Waitwhat23 · 05/04/2022 08:50

Infographic about the differences between male and female bodies.

To be clear, the last few posts about differences in women and men in sporting events is to counter the argument (often seen espoused by MRA's on this board) that there are no differences between men and women and that women 'just aren't trying hard enough'. It's also to evidence the need for safety in women's sport.

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Waitwhat23 · 05/04/2022 08:45

Athletic teenage High School boys and female olympians -
boysvswomen.com/#/

You will see again and again - 'None of the women's finals performances met the qualifying time to enter the boys' competition'.

And for some of the swimming events - 'The top women's time set a new women's world record; however, 3 boys, ages 18, 16, & 16 were able to top it.'

Theeyeballsinthefuckingsky · 05/04/2022 08:38

Handy graphics on the sport issue

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DomesticatedZombie · 05/04/2022 08:29

Info on Scottish feminists network

scottishfeministnetwork.co.uk/

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GAHgamel · 05/04/2022 04:40

[quote DomesticatedZombie]Jane-Clare Jones wrote an entertaining explainer of recent history:

janeclarejones.com/2018/11/13/the-annals-of-the-terf-wars/[/quote]
It's fabulous, but that was more than 3 years ago, and so much has happened since then. I'm kind of hoping there's an updated version in the book she's writing.

Pixiedust1234 · 05/04/2022 01:34

Wow, thank you for putting all this information on one thread Flowers

Cagedbirdsinging · 05/04/2022 01:02

Merched Cymru is supporting and informing women in Wales .

Waitwhat23 · 04/04/2022 20:34

GRA reforms specific to Scotland

Reform to the GRA - background
murrayblackburnmackenzie.org/gender-recognition-act-reform/

The results of the 1st consultation (from 201), I am unable to find.

The analysis of the 2nd consultation are below-

www.gov.scot/publications/gender-recognition-reform-scotland-bill-analysis-responses-public-consultation-exercise/

Slightly astoundingly, we appear to now be on the 3rd consultation process -
www.heraldscotland.com/politics/20007955.gender-recognition-reform-scotland-bill-consultation-opens/

However, Nicola Sturgeon has claimed that the SNP were voted in on the basis that there would be GRA reform -
www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-wrong-say-snp-25929807

And our First Minister is on record as believing that women's concerns 'aren't valid'.
www.heraldscotland.com/politics/19955525.nicola-sturgeon-facing-revolt-gender-bill-rebels-seek-free-vote/

Meanwhile, the UK Government have dropped reform -
commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9079/

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DomesticatedZombie · 04/04/2022 19:18

Dentons is an international law firm that has done some interesting work on transgender issues:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4059873-Deep-Dive-on-the-Dentons-document

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DomesticatedZombie · 04/04/2022 19:16

Endocrine Society statement:

'Sex is an important biological variable that must be considered in the design and analysis of human and animal research. The terms sex and gender should not be used interchangeably. Sex is dichotomous, with sex determination in the fertilized zygote stemming from unequal expression of sex chromosomal genes. By contrast, gender includes perception of the individual as male, female, or other, both by the individual and by society; both humans and animals have sex, but only humans have gender. '

academic.oup.com/edrv/article/42/3/219/6159361

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DomesticatedZombie · 04/04/2022 19:14

Jane-Clare Jones wrote an entertaining explainer of recent history:

janeclarejones.com/2018/11/13/the-annals-of-the-terf-wars/

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HenriettaTriceratops · 04/04/2022 19:08

Thank you very much. It's really helpful to have everything in one place.

Waitwhat23 · 04/04/2022 19:05

Regarding single sex spaces, the most recent (in the last couple of days) advice from EHRC -

www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/advice-and-guidance/separate-and-single-sex-service-providers-guide-equality-act-sex-and-gender?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=Orlo