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Ooh Bridget Phillipson has defined ‘woman’

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JanetPluchinsky · 04/04/2022 07:40

On GMB right now, was asked the question.

She answered ‘I am a woman, I think most people recognise a woman is an adult female, and then there are people who go through a LEGAL PROCESS to be seen as women’ (I’ve paraphrased a bit).

Not the party line at all. That’s cheered me right up this morning. I’ve never heard of her but it’s the first sensible answer I’ve heard from a Labour bod so far.

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BlueSlate · 04/04/2022 08:00

@JanetPluchinsky

She actually said ‘go through the legal process to be recognised as a woman’ which is completely different to the usual Labour line.

I wonder if she knows what she’s said, or doesn’t realise self ID is in effect already.

Actually, I'm not sure that is as positive actually.

'To be seen as' means they are not.

'To be recognised as' does suggest that it is the truth but it might not have been immediately apparent. It's early, I can't articulate what I mean properly but I hope ypu se what I'm saying!

Someone who is recognised as an expert in their field, for example, is already are an expert but now other people know it too.

And, as others have said, no legal process is necessary any more.

DragonMamma · 04/04/2022 07:58

I thought she handled it well - even Richard Madeley seemed impressed she actually had an answering

ImAvingOops · 04/04/2022 07:57

It's a shame no one asked her about self ID.
Politicians have made the mistake of thinking that twitter represents the majority view irl. But if the entire population had it clearly explained that self ID means just saying you are a woman and then being given access to women's spaces - no legal process, no medical procedures, no checks and balances, the vast majority of the population would be against this.
I honestly can't get my head around how so many institutions have allowed themselves to be led by the nose by what are essentially a small number of twitter bullies

donquixotedelamancha · 04/04/2022 07:57

Who is Bridget Williamson?

Bridget Phillipson is shadow sec for education?

LizzieSiddal · 04/04/2022 07:56

Oh interesting. After the amount of media attention Womens’ rights has had in the last few days it’s not surprising they’ve had to have a rethink.

Blackandwhitehorse · 04/04/2022 07:51

I hope these questions eventually lead onto more in-depth ones, around single sex spaces, language, data etc.

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JanetPluchinsky · 04/04/2022 07:47

She actually said ‘go through the legal process to be recognised as a woman’ which is completely different to the usual Labour line.

I wonder if she knows what she’s said, or doesn’t realise self ID is in effect already.

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LadyCatStark · 04/04/2022 07:46

I was impressed by her answer TBH.

GeneLovesJezebel · 04/04/2022 07:44

Legal process ?
You only have to put women’s clothes on to say you’re a woman, in fact, thinking of Parliament last week, you don’t have to even do that.

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JanetPluchinsky · 04/04/2022 07:43

Oh ffs I’ve got her name wrong. Apols, Bridget Phillipson.

I haven’t had enough coffee this morning.

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BlueSlate · 04/04/2022 07:42

"To be seen as a woman" is much better than "to become a woman".

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