Ahem.... FWR headlines in the Mail

If what is happening in America since Biden has been in office is any indication of how Labour would govern then voting them in and hoping they will sort it out once in power is a terrible terrible idea.

Well, when I say text from Datun it’s more like the general area suddenly filling with dazzling light & the blast of celestial trumpets. Then Gabriel or some other winged type appears surrounded by cherubs in Adult Human Female T-shirts & passes on the message.

Oh, don't even. It's a right bugger trying to get round Sainsbury's with the bloody cherubs popping out everywhere and everyone going ooh look! where can I get one of those winged men??

Takes me dayyys.

Well, when I say text fromDatunit’s more like the general area suddenly filling with dazzling light & the blast of celestial
trumpets. Then Gabriel or some other winged type appears surrounded by cherubs in Adult Human Female T-shirts & passes on the message
Hmmmm nope , that's not selling it to me.

Obviously I'm joking, and actually jealous. Swoons at the thoughts of texts from datun

Empress

I have said many times that this ‘gender woo’ shitshow that assaults women’s and children’s rights and safety has emerged and grown under years of Conservative government; and that many of us are bitterly disappointed with Labour for not only failing to oppose it but also propelling the madness forwards.

I’m angry with the government and angry with the opposition. I’m angry with the Lib Dems, Greens, WEP, the SNP, Plaid, all of them, for having brains and backbones of jelly.

Of course it’s sensible to remain wary of all forms of media. But women must also be extremely canny and pragmatic about getting their messages out and amplified.

Imagine Lisa Nandy being given a ministerial role in charge of prisons?

No thank you.

It’s a risk to go with Labour though

If laws get passed it’s unlikely to revert

Oh wow, the Labour Party are here to save all women? Excellent. How are they going to do that exactly?

I think people are being played for fools by the Tories and the Daily Mail. They do not give a shit about me or my rights, they will rip them up another way as soon as look at me.

carefullycourageous - and women are free to appreciate that papers like the DM are at least giving them a platform for their concerns, and free to not vote for Labour or vote for the Conservatives or not vote at all.

Every thread on this topic gets posters going on and on about how it's terrible that women are doing this. So yes, it's tedious and lecturing because I've never seen any willingness to acknowledge that it is Labour's responsibility to respect women and stand up for their rights. Votes will follow when they actually start giving a shit about us.

@NonnyMouse1337

You are being unnecessarily unpleasant. I'm not lecturing you, I'm posting my views.

Please stop telling me what to do. I can post what I bloody well like, I am a free woman in a free country last time I checked.

I completely reject your claim my posts are 'faux concern'? I am a woman, women's rights are really bloody important to me.

If women's rights are really bloody important to you, then I'd suggest you spend more time engaging with the Labour Party instead of lecturing us here - as if we don't know what the Tories are like.

Get the Labour Party to understand that prioritising the wishes of men, including rapists and pedophiles, over the needs of women is not a vote winner.

It's very revealing that posters always come on these kinds of threads to tell women it's their fault for looking for ways to secure their rights, rather than actually dealing with the real issue - that Labour are happy to use and abuse women as it suits them.
Why is Labour not holding the Conservative government to account for letting rapists in women's prisons?

The Daily Mail has been good on this for years. Sue Reid wrote an article about how easy it was for children to buy testosterone/estrogen online back in 2018.

All the parties are infuriatingly shit on this issue. This whole issue has grown to such epic proportions on the Tories’ negligent watch. Yes I agree.

The Tories have an 80 seat majority. If they really cared they could resolve this issue. They do not want to resolve it, they want to keep everyone distracted and jumping and stressed while they destroy women's life chances at every opportunity.

They are playing this issue like a fiddle.

I completely reject your claim my posts are 'faux concern'? I am a woman, women's rights are really bloody important to me.

My point is women are not doing the manipulating, they are being manipulated by a party pretending to care about this issue.

The Tories don't give a shit about women's rights, but in this issue they have found a way to counter their traditional problem attracting female voters, without having to pledge a penny of public spending on women's issues.

Nailed it. (Labour voter with nobody to vote for here)
All the parties are infuriatingly shit on this issue. This whole issue has grown to such epic proportions on the Tories’ negligent watch.

The Tories do seem to be trying to attract votes from women. I’m thinking about the women’s health strategy, apparently publishing sometime in 2022.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/our-vision-for-the-womens-health-strategy-for-england
This will give them some good woman-friendly headlines closer to the next general election. Still not clear if any of it comes with any new, ringfenced money though.

If you have a point to make about Labour please go ahead and make it.

Women have been making the point about Labour for 5 pages in this thread. So stop pretending and weaseling your way out of it.

My point is that the Tories have no principled attachment to the stance they are taking, it is a convenient issue for them.

And Labour are exactly the same. They crow about caring about all those poor, poor marginalised women - especially those with darker skin - they really love those, don't they? But those same women are bigots if they find themselves in prison with rapists and pedophiles, or can't go to swimming pools and other places because males are using communal changing rooms and toilets, or can't access rape and domestic violence services because males are there too.

Your faux concern is tedious.

Women will use whatever means is available to secure their rights. If the Tories can be manipulated into doing this - fine by me.

Johnson's polling with women voters is worse than Tory average. It has been identified as a real problem for him in terms of both these locals and any future GE.

My point is that the Tories have no principled attachment to the stance they are taking, it is a convenient issue for them.

If you have a point to make about Labour please go ahead and make it.

I personally think that the Daily Mail is using this issue as the only available way to counter the fact that Johnson has a very considerable problem with women voters, and the local elections are coming.

The Tories don't give a shit about women's rights

And..... What's your point? You think Labour gives a shit?
Women should sit back and not make use of every means possible to secure their rights that are being thrown away in front of their eyes?

Why don’t Labour listen a bit more to the same?

I feel pretty ignored as a woman by them. I can’t see that’s at all good.