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Allison Bailey

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NancyDrawed · 02/04/2022 11:06

Allison's case is due to be heard later this month and given the delays and attempts to have the case struck out, as well as the addition of direct discrimination based on GC beliefs to the case, costs have mounted.

The case is scheduled to run for 20 days (5 to 10 days being the norm).

Ben Cooper QC is representing Allison.

I'm off to plant some more flowers to really catch the sunlight that no doubt will be shining during the 20 days of her case. I thought I had enough, but more are needed because of the extension, unfortunately, which has left a bit of a bare patch!

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DelurkingLawyer · 03/04/2022 18:19

Thanks for the reminder to get out and garden.

Fascinating that some are suggesting on twitter that it won’t change the law. They’re very eager to say that a few first instance decisions like the Land Rover case did change the law or were otherwise somehow ground breaking, because it suits their agenda to do so.

RoyalCorgi · 03/04/2022 18:12

@MamaSaidTheredBeDaysLikeThis

Would someone mind précis-ing why AB’s case is so important? I’ve lost track a bit.
When AB helped found the LGBA, Stonewall pressured her employer into making her life difficult for her to force her to leave. So it's important because it demonstrates how pernicious and widespread Stonewall's influence is, to the extent that it will try to force a Black lesbian barrister out of her job for holding a different opinion. I guess that's the gist. If Stonewall lose (as I sincerely hope they do) it will cause a lot of questions to be asked about why so many large public bodies, including the Welsh government, are paying Stonewall thousands or even millions of pounds a year.
MamaSaidTheredBeDaysLikeThis · 03/04/2022 18:04

Would someone mind précis-ing why AB’s case is so important? I’ve lost track a bit.

Justanotherobserver · 03/04/2022 18:00

I see there's been a lot of gardening going on today. Nice!

Cindie943811A · 03/04/2022 17:55

Thank you for this thread — I’ve been rather depressed lately so avoiding

RL news and so wasn’t aware of the latest re AB’s actions.
Anyway I’ve just planted a little packet of seeds. Will try to find more stuff to plant soon.
Widow’s mite and all that but unity helps.

Twitterwhooooo · 03/04/2022 17:55

It's a huge case.

I remember Allison's first crowd funder that the site pulled then reinstated in a very diluted form because talking about being sexually abused as a child and a lesbian is transphobic of course, and realising that Stonewall really were going to use every weapon in their artillery to bring down a black lesbian, and this could not be allowed to happen.

So much admiration for Allison.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 03/04/2022 17:51

@Roseglen84

Just bumping for the afternoon crowd. I didn't realise the case starts at the end of this month, I bet Stonewall are shitting themselves Grin.
After the excitement of Maya Forstater's case ( Compulsive viewing. People in my kitchen. Empire ) I'd think a fair number of people are planning their work schedules around being able to attend the Allison Bailey employment tribunal if the public is allowed online access.

This would be an outstanding case for the public to be able to attend online. It's notable, important, and there is huge interest in the process and eventual outcomes.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 03/04/2022 17:44

The shock that activists must feel when they see that actually the public care about women being bullied out of their jobs, women's sport, vulnerable women in prison forced to share with rapists, women being raped in hospital and NHS staff lying to the police about it as well as the tragedy that is teenage social contagion.

And it's men as well as women funding this!

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 03/04/2022 17:23

I am looking forward to seeing what Allison is like as a witness. Am expecting "formidable".

I reckon there will be a film about these cases in due course.

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 03/04/2022 17:21

done a little light gardening. nice day for it

jkrfan · 03/04/2022 17:14

Loving my daffodils so much I have just planted some more.

BraveBananaBadge · 03/04/2022 17:06

Daley Thompson has publicly supported and donated to the fundraiser on the bird app...

Turningpurple · 03/04/2022 17:05

@NancyDrawed

Looks like another large donation has gone in - now £310K

If Stonewall and their supporters genuinely think that there is little grassroots support for Allison, the LGBA and the LGB community at large, they must be quite bewildered by what is happening with Allison's crowdfund.

Might the penny finally drop? Might they have a 'are we the bad guys?' moment? Actually, given this is Stonewall, probably not!

Wow!!!
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NancyDrawed · 03/04/2022 17:03

Looks like another large donation has gone in - now £310K

If Stonewall and their supporters genuinely think that there is little grassroots support for Allison, the LGBA and the LGB community at large, they must be quite bewildered by what is happening with Allison's crowdfund.

Might the penny finally drop? Might they have a 'are we the bad guys?' moment? Actually, given this is Stonewall, probably not!

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Roseglen84 · 03/04/2022 16:40

Just bumping for the afternoon crowd. I didn't realise the case starts at the end of this month, I bet Stonewall are shitting themselves Grin.

M0RVEN · 03/04/2022 15:46

@NancyDrawed

Total is now currently just under £250K.

Which by my reckoning means approx £100K has been donated in 24 hours. £5 here, £10 there, raising the case's profile and sharing the details all counts, all adds up. This case is HUGE, I am surprised that our paymasters at the Right Wing Christian groups haven't just paid for the lot, to be honest.

Let alone the international coalition of powerful lesbians 🤣
SpinningTheSeedsOfLove · 03/04/2022 14:49

I had a badged-up Green Party candidate at my door for the local elections claiming to have never heard of the term 'cotton ceiling' or about the whole coercion of lesbians debacle.

I really, really hope that this gets exploded up in to the higher oxygen levels of publicity in the real world.

yourhairiswinterfire · 03/04/2022 13:58

This is from Allison's crowdfunding page:

I do not believe that this is consistent with campaigning for LGB rights; indeed one of the matters about which Stonewall later complained about me to my chambers was my vociferous objection to a Stonewall advocate lecturing on the “cotton ceiling” – the term used to encourage lesbians to have sex with males. This is in my view abusive, coercive and fundamentally homophobic. It ought to be absolutely anathema to any organisation which labels itself as a gay rights organisation as Stonewall does.

Looks like the ''cotton ceiling'' is going to come up at the tribunal. I really, really want to see them forced to explain this homophobic bullshit, and why they think a lesbian has no right to object to it.

drum123 · 03/04/2022 13:47

Not wanting to derail this in any way at all (have planted a few seeds myself) but did anyone else get the Thom Browne advert popping up? I did, and I clicked - my days, what are they on? And the prices! If anyone can afford their ridiculous clothes, they could afford to fund Allison all by themselves. Although judging by the androgynous models, they might not want to...

chillied · 03/04/2022 13:36

@littlbrowndog

I think that bt has put some parental controls which you have to disable to donate
thanks for this hint. I don't know how to disable the parental controls, but I logged out of Wi-Fi and was able to see her website and do the gardening via mobile data
Neongoddess · 03/04/2022 10:54

@OvaHere I think they purposely don't look at the details and don't care about legal processes or the laws.

They just wany to be able to have a target. And anyone who doesn't follow stonewalls party line is an acceptable target.

They don't believe I'm facts and law if it doesn't agree with them

OvaHere · 03/04/2022 10:43

@Neongoddess

Just seen on twitter that someone us claiming it's Ben thats dragging is out for profit.

Just pretending it's not Stonewall and friends that are trying to make sure she runs out of money.

I've seen so many terrible takes from TRAs as to what this case is about. They don't have clue or seemingly any understanding of legal processes.

They may be in for a shock later in the month when the case begins and the details start coming out.

Neongoddess · 03/04/2022 10:33

Just seen on twitter that someone us claiming it's Ben thats dragging is out for profit.

Just pretending it's not Stonewall and friends that are trying to make sure she runs out of money.

LittleWhingingWoman · 03/04/2022 10:20

I've popped in a few seedlings.
She says no donation is too small.

I read her account of her childhood. I'll support her all the way. This case is huge.

Nnique · 03/04/2022 10:13

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