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Crowdfunding and extortionate costs

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Honestopinion23 · 02/04/2022 10:50

I know that it's a travesty that women are having to bring these cases etc etc but I've just seen one GC feminist whose crowdfunding target is now £400,000, on top of a previous figure of £150k already raised. There are several other ones also asking for extremely high figures. I am just shocked that the costs could be so high (over half a million), even if the hearing is a lengthy one, and I worry that now cost of living is escalating that ordinary people won't be able to part with large amounts of cash. There's also something in me that says why should they have to. I know, I know, there is no obligation to donate but it makes me feel guilty reading the requests for funding. And I just feel a bit uncomfortable about the whole thing.
Hopefully JKR will swoop in and fund all of them! Grin

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ScrollingLeaves · 03/04/2022 22:24

@ArcheryAnnie 22:11
You have written what I feel too about the value of her stance and the gratitude everyone feels towards her.

ArcheryAnnie · 03/04/2022 22:11

@RaquelRosarioSanchez you should never feel hesitant about asking for money - I get how awkward it must be, but we do understand the absolute vastness of the legal machine pitted against you, and we want to help.

I read your statement and it was absolutely devastating. (And I recognised some things that, in a small way, are reflected in my own life.) I also think of my son at university, and how I would like him to be treated. What they are doing to you is just unconscionable and cannot be allowed to stand.

And - even looking at this from a completely cold-blooded point of view, even if I wasn't absolutely, furiously incensed at the way you've been treated - it makes utilitarian sense for us all to support your case, if we are in a position to do so. I'm a single parent on a low wage, not much room for extras. But I've just dobbed in a few quid (very few, sorry) to your crowd funder, and I will again to Allison's, and I'll look up Jo Phoenix's, because (and I realise how awful this sounds, but it's true) it's good value. The few quid I can afford to donate seems silly, but mine and everyone else's few quids mount up. Even though my few quid will go to pay lawyers whose hourly rates I can barely comprehend, it's still good value. What is happening to you affects us all. It is in all our interests that you and Allison and Jo have good outcomes in these cases. We are desperate for you to win.

(And this isn't a criticism of anyone who isn't donating or who can't donate- we all pick our battles.)

Crouton19 · 03/04/2022 20:24

I’ve lost track of who I’ve donated to already but will do another whip round when I get paid. These aren’t just donations - they are insurance, as we could be in the same position ourselves one day.

KittyLeMew · 03/04/2022 19:35

Happy to keep supporting you @RaquelRosarioSanchez Smile

I just wish I had a spare 50k!

Aretina · 03/04/2022 19:31

Wow, 2x 50K donations. That's amazing.

I wish our elected representatives would read the comments on crowdfunders like this. See the strength of feeling. See what ordinary people really think.

Datun · 03/04/2022 19:23

@Waitwhat23

Another donation of 50k!
Yay!!!

Go wims ❤️

eleanorwish · 03/04/2022 19:13

Allison must have updated the wording on the donation page. It now says
"If, however, at the conclusion of this case, there are excess funds remaining, I will divide those funds equally between the gender critical crowdfunders active at the time, with anything left over going to Samaritans, a charity registered in England and Wales."

rabbitwoman · 03/04/2022 18:55

I am blocked from the original author of the tweet, who has about 12,000 followers, but have seen some of the replies.

It really is eye-opening.

I am so looking forward to this case, and Stonewall's activities being scrutinised to the absolute nth degree, and how on Earth some of these folks are going to continue to support them.

NonnyMouse1337 · 03/04/2022 18:36

@AlsoNotAGirl

NonnyMouse1337

Katie Alcocks case against Girl Guiding needs to be added to that list. I think this is an important case wrt safeguarding generally and raises the lack of protection for volunteer whistleblowers

Thanks! The one for Katie Alcock is there, but I seem to have accidentally placed it in the list of past crowdfunders - oops! I'll correct that when I'm on my laptop later tonight.
Waitwhat23 · 03/04/2022 18:17

Another donation of 50k!

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 03/04/2022 17:58

[quote rabbitwoman]Looks like this thread is being screenshotted and discussed on twitter :

twitter.com/setoacnna/status/1510617502946107400?s=20&t=LcPUSNcDDSEGYDRW0JgSaw[/quote]
Comments are eye-opening. How have people who don't understand about legal specialisms attained any influence whatsoever?

Why are companies and MPs running scared of people who think being a successful lawyer in any legal sphere means you'll never need to employ another lawyer in other spheres?

ChoosandChipsandSealingWax · 03/04/2022 17:25

Another garden that needs tending is Emma Bateman: challenging the Green Party for its shocking treatment of her. 💚

ChoosandChipsandSealingWax · 03/04/2022 17:23

Thank you for the nudging! It’s just been payday, and gardening is my favourite hobby - off to support Allison, Raquel and Katie - thank you all for your bravery, for standing for our women and girls, despite the huge personal cost Flowers

Waitwhat23 · 03/04/2022 16:57

[quote rabbitwoman]Looks like this thread is being screenshotted and discussed on twitter :

twitter.com/setoacnna/status/1510617502946107400?s=20&t=LcPUSNcDDSEGYDRW0JgSaw[/quote]
The very idea that women might spend their own money as they so choose!

And it's always a screenshot, isn't it, rather than an actual link.

HowamIalmost50 · 03/04/2022 16:05

@Yipja

Nope no luck again. It takes it as far as the LEGL. and my bank but registers 0.00. I've used a different browser, a different card. I will contact them tomorrow.
I had the same issue but am in the comments as having donated £10 ! Need to check my credit card tomorrow!
rabbitwoman · 03/04/2022 15:29

Looks like this thread is being screenshotted and discussed on twitter :

twitter.com/setoacnna/status/1510617502946107400?s=20&t=LcPUSNcDDSEGYDRW0JgSaw

SweetSakura · 03/04/2022 15:28

The reality is that for complex legal cases these costs aren't surprising. And that is why so many organisations get away with bullying people into silence

Monitaurus · 03/04/2022 15:26

Had the same problem. Think it was the wrong site. So cancelled and started again on the new one. Which showed the proper payment.

Yipja · 03/04/2022 15:13

Oh well that might be a few multiples then. Thanks for the info.
I'm glad they aren't deliberately messing with her after the Alison Bailey shenanigans they pulled.

TofuDelights · 03/04/2022 15:05

Yipja, it did the same thing when I donated, said £0.00 but it did take the money out of my account the next day.

Yipja · 03/04/2022 14:42

Nope no luck again. It takes it as far as the LEGL. and my bank but registers 0.00. I've used a different browser, a different card.
I will contact them tomorrow.

Yipja · 03/04/2022 14:27

Ah ha I will try that thank you Yourhair

Yipja · 03/04/2022 14:26

Thanks M of Ld but that's the way I've been doing it. I've tried with the optional donation and without, and I've donated before with the same card.

yourhairiswinterfire · 03/04/2022 14:25

@Yipja

I'm trying to add to Raquel again, haven't been able to all weekend. Any tips? It looks like it's worked for other people.
Could you possibly be looking at the old one? Raquel had to set up a new page when her solicitor moved firms.

The old one is titled ''Bullying and harassment permitted...

The new one is titled ''Bullying and harassment enabled...

Mummyoflittledragon · 03/04/2022 14:19

@Yipja
I just googled “Rachel Rosario Sanchez crowdjustice” and the link came up. Big orange button ‘pledge now’ and followed the link.

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