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Janice Turner in Times - women will never accept sports being rigged

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Popuptent · 01/04/2022 21:57

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a1be0454-b1f2-11ec-8b8c-0207c0fd6104?shareToken=475cf38546a5b25ef1ceb60846ad4b93

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springtimeishereagain · 01/04/2022 22:33

Brilliant article! 👏👏👏

Abitofalark · 01/04/2022 22:29

Is this The Times trying to claw back some credibility from the poorly informed Matt someone or other, Senior Sports Writer? I've forgotten his name. No bad thing, as it happens.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 01/04/2022 22:21

Children are not small adults.

Women are not smaller men with missing or extra bits and bobs.

It's taken millennia for medicine and political, legal, social, and civic institutions to grasp this concept that 'not men' does not mean defects/deficiencies: even now medicine and these institutions aren't up to speed on the consequences of what this means.

Those loudly proclaiming "evolving science" seem to have skipped these basics.

Thank you, Janice.

mudgetastic · 01/04/2022 22:20

Smaller goals on football

MrsOvertonsWindow · 01/04/2022 22:16

She's yet again on fire. The Times have so many fantastic writers and reading today, alongside the outstanding Lucy Bannerman article, has been a pleasure.
So many powerful articles, while allowing the occasional pathetic one from a sad male sports writer Grin .

Truthlikeness · 01/04/2022 22:16

The sports we play are optimised for the male physique. I do wonder how things might have turned out differently if not for the patriarchy. More equestrian sports perhaps, ultra endurance events and things that require a high pain tolerance.

StandUpStraight · 01/04/2022 22:07

Thank you for sharing that. Janice Turner is always brilliant, but at her electric best when she is furious.

“Thomas and Bridges had merely followed the rules: reduce your testosterone below 5nmol/L (over twice the female top limit) for a year or so and you’re a woman. This not only fails to diminish the myriad advantages bestowed by male puberty, from greater lung capacity to narrower hips which make for more powerful pedalling, it is also a grotesque misogynist slur.

Women are not just hobbled men, smaller men, lesser men, men who have popped pills. We are not helpmeets for men, created from Adam’s rib. Women are our own selves. Our bodies are extraordinary…”

And good to see Philippa York being called out for accusing Lia Thomas’ teammates of lying about what happened in the changing rooms (and indirectly The Times for giving York a platform to do so).