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MaMaLa321 · 01/04/2022 20:49

towards the end of the programme there's a question on gender.
I've never heard such uniformly evasive answers, focussing heavily on 'be kind' and 'take the heat out of the debate'.
Very very depressing.

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MumNuts71 · 04/04/2022 10:47

I am of a mind that so very much in the world is in a state of turmoil.....
Why are sooo many people perplexed by what and who they are......
I do feel a lot of their tribulations are connected to how they were raised.....
There is soooo much unrest, unhappiness and dissatisfaction for a lot of people........I am sooooo disapionted that famine and thirst, have not been erased...that housing, schooling , The NHS, and all the other necessities of life are not freely and easily available for all......
Why have we not been able to eradicate all the pain and sorrow..............

But what is really annoying me is all this nonsense about trans people....oh yes that is certainly going to make the world a better place........NOT....hmm Hmm

MaMaLa321 · 04/04/2022 10:19

it's odd, because, the the run-up to the programme, she said that it would be covered. But, as others say, this has happened before.

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Abitofalark · 03/04/2022 12:41

I heard Any Answers? yesterday and when it came towards the end, Anita Anand chose to focus on the Downing Street parties. This left no time for sex and gender identity, which tells us where the priorities lie. The scent of some party political drama or government scandal is irresistible.

Roger Bolton suggested on Feedback the other day that there seems to be a sense of nervousness among top people at the BBC about discussing sex and gender identity. I'm thinking that's probably an understatement.

Abitofalark · 03/04/2022 12:18

A few years ago I was firmly corrected for suggesting that the Any Questions? audience is selected by the broadcaster according to various criteria. The audience, I was assured, is whoever turns up.
I'm not saying that means it isn't biased in some way or another.

I confused it with Question Time which at that time had a process for audience selection involving filling in a questionnaire. I don't know if that is still the case.

sashagabadon · 02/04/2022 17:17

Agree it was infuriating although both any answers and any questions normally has a completely biased audience so it is not a surprise

Dimenw · 02/04/2022 14:58

I might have shouted at the radio quite a bit. Blah blah be kind, calm discussion, safe to live own lives - sport seemed to be the only possible fly in the ointment. Not one mention of schools, hospital wards and the possibility of being raped in one, women's prisons ditto. Although the question asked was fairly general (and even so, they all tried not to answer it).

Awkwardy · 02/04/2022 14:51

No discussion. What a surprise.

This has definitely happened before.

nauticant · 02/04/2022 14:47

I think Anita Anand dislikes discussion of this issue when there's a possibility of some people not being kind.

TheAbbotOfUnreason · 02/04/2022 14:45

Oh. No discussion. What a surprise.

TheAbbotOfUnreason · 02/04/2022 14:06

Any Answers has included the “does gender trump biology” question in its intro.

Whether anyone gets through to talk about … we’ll see.

nauticant · 02/04/2022 13:42

Bumping the thread for posters to have a safe space to rage in about our idiotic and spineless politicians.

NewBootsAndRanty · 02/04/2022 13:32

'Any Answers?' on in half an hour..

Abitofalark · 02/04/2022 00:44

Okay, I get it!

nauticant · 01/04/2022 23:21

If you search on the Internet for "Stunning and Brave" Abitofalark things will be clearer. I'll leave it at that.

Abitofalark · 01/04/2022 23:10

Also thanks, WelcomeMarch, I meant to say.

Abitofalark · 01/04/2022 23:09

Ah, thanks, nauticant. I didn't know the S B abbreviation or that there was a phrase that was banned or might be banned. Goodness. What's wrong with it? (Rhetorical question.)

WelcomeMarch · 01/04/2022 22:35

I was puzzled by S&B as it means style and beauty on here! Think it’s the quite possibly banned term sting and brve.

nauticant · 01/04/2022 22:31

It's Stunning & Brave Abitofalark. It's one of the phrases that MN are sometimes relaxed over and at other times are twitchy over. I used the abbreviation because I couldn't be arsed trying to divine the mood of the mods today.

Abitofalark · 01/04/2022 22:07

Jamie Wallis is what?

AlisonDonut · 01/04/2022 22:06

But at least they allowed a question on it. Ch-ch-ch-changes are afoot.

MaMaLa321 · 01/04/2022 22:02

yes, he was the best. But what a low bar!

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Imnobody4 · 01/04/2022 22:01

Just listened to this and have to say I thought Robert Jenrick was best of the bunch. He did acknowledge the difficulty of balancing rights. He also mentioned building regs and toilets, that was refering to the consultation he did about toilet provision. I haven't actually heard anything about the outcome of that.

nauticant · 01/04/2022 21:34

Oh, and I meant to say, the audience really lapped up the thin gruel delivered by the panel.

nauticant · 01/04/2022 21:33

The excellent question (I suspect the audience had a GC infiltrator):

Does gender supersede biological sex?

was wasted on this bunch of drones. As BoreOfWhabylon said, Chris Mason did try a bit although he did come up with the example of women's toilets which a number of guests cling on to as if flung a lifeline.

BoreOfWhabylon · 01/04/2022 21:20

Chris Mason tried, I thought, but they were all sticking to the script.

And when Davey (or was it Jenrick?) praised Jamie Wallis' courage in coming out as wannabe trans, I wanted to hurl my radio through the (closed) kitchen window. No applause for that bit, I noted, and quite muted in general.