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Stella Creasy's definition of a woman

36 replies

BringBackCoffeeCreams · 01/04/2022 15:10

On Politicäs Live yesterday. Challenged on what a woman is, she said that a woman is an adult human female ... CHEERS! ... and some are born and some become women ... BANGS HEAD ON DESK!

(around 26.30)

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0015y98/politics-live-31032022

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/04/2022 18:08

Yeah. The best bit was when asked for clarification, she declines saying “some people want titillation”. Yeah. We’re all perverts.

Straight from the TRA playbook.

ThatsNotItAtAll · 01/04/2022 17:43

Outside the realm of Greek mythology, who exactly was born a woman - defined as an adult human female? 🤯

Cwenthryth · 01/04/2022 17:39

Yeah. The best bit was when asked for clarification, she declines saying “some people want titillation”. Yeah. We’re all perverts.

Artichokeleaves · 01/04/2022 17:26

Some women are born women, some women achieve womenhood and some women have womenhood thrust upon them, eh?

I'm finding myself increasingly just muttering 'now you're just being silly' and walking away... you can't talk to someone being this daft.

AlisonDonut · 01/04/2022 17:06

I mean we are getting closer...a few weeks back that would have been unthinkable.

nauticant · 01/04/2022 17:02

Shouldn't the full paraphrasing be:

Some are born women, some achieve womanhood, and some have womanhood thrust upon them.

tanstaafl · 01/04/2022 16:23

@tabbycatstripy

We have to operate on the basis that any politician like Creasy, Nandy, Rayner, Sobel etc., no matter how they moderate things they have said in the past to try to cleverly placate us, they believe a male person can become a woman and they believe that should make them indistinguishable from a natal female. That’s their belief. They have a right to it.

I also believe it makes them unsuitable to represent the wider public. They have a prior commitment.

This. Leopards and spots.
NancyDrawed · 01/04/2022 16:05

Mr Menno was in the chat of KJK's video yesterday and he said they should be asked 'What is a Transwoman?'

Do you think anyone would go there?

tabbycatstripy · 01/04/2022 16:03

Corruptio optimi pessima.

flyingbuttress43 · 01/04/2022 16:00

These days I am permanently disappointed, especially when clever women I admire (or did) like Creasey show themselves to be somewhat less admirable.

tabbycatstripy · 01/04/2022 15:13

We have to operate on the basis that any politician like Creasy, Nandy, Rayner, Sobel etc., no matter how they moderate things they have said in the past to try to cleverly placate us, they believe a male person can become a woman and they believe that should make them indistinguishable from a natal female. That’s their belief. They have a right to it.

I also believe it makes them unsuitable to represent the wider public. They have a prior commitment.