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Maya Forstater on front page of Daily Mail

302 replies

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 01/04/2022 03:29

Yes, it’s the Mail. No, I’m not apologising. This is fantastic!

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10674135/Three-women-launch-significant-female-movement-Suffragettes.html

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Mochudubh · 01/04/2022 10:45

@Slothtoes

I hope in time they will consider adding campaign materials to their website for us to use with sitting MPs, to help us remind them that we still expect them to treat women as people while they, you know, have legislative power over us?
Me too. I'd love a poster to put in my window (though that might scare the SNP off and not give me a chance to ask the question).

If they made one available on the website for download I'd even risk printing it out at work when no-one's around (no home printer). Some stickers Shock would be nice too.

I intend to vote communist if they're on the ballot.

I was a dyed in the wool SNP voter before I woke up to this issue. I'm sure Alec Salmon knows what a woman is Hmm but I can't hold my nose enough to vote for his Alba party.

Datun · 01/04/2022 10:43

[quote zanahoria]The Lisa Nandy video

[/quote] Honestly. I can't count the number of times when I have been absolutely spitting nails over this issue, and that fucking video is one of them.

She tells Julie Long that rapists and paedophiles should be put in whatever prison they want. And in the very next breath claims that she has spent time keeping women who have been subjected to domestic abuse, safe.

How is it keeping them safe, when you let any old sex offender into their space??

The idiocy is beyond belief.

Thelnebriati · 01/04/2022 10:38

Its nice to see a load of supportive comments underneath as well (even if some of them seem to be late to the party and verge on 'its about time someone did something about it).

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 01/04/2022 10:35

Someone on my Facebook made the point that the Daily Mail will judge the success of the online article partly by how many views it gets and how often people click on their Share icons to share it on social. So I’m going to do that.

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DomesticatedZombie · 01/04/2022 10:34

And Julia Long being a Star

ScreamingMeMe · 01/04/2022 10:32

Lisa Nandy footage:

Compilation of other Labour MPs being ridiculous:

DomesticatedZombie · 01/04/2022 10:24

@Westfacing

Someone please tell me that Lisa Nandy didn't really say in relation to a child rapist:

I think trans women are women and they should be accommodated in a prison of their choosing

She did, aye. There is film footage.
bellinisurge · 01/04/2022 10:14

"Where will the vote go?". It probably won't go anywhere because we have no one to vote for . Yet. Which means the Tories win. But that is not GC wonen's fault. That is Labour's fault for losing women with this NoDebate/BeKind bull shit. That ship sailed a long time ago and Labour needs to work harder.

ResisterRex · 01/04/2022 10:01

teawamutu just saw Parliament's not sitting. So Caroline must be at a private meeting of some kind. Still!

Linguini · 01/04/2022 10:00

slothtoes do you have any links to the threads about communists and this issue please? I’m very left wing, and I’m gender critical, and not really feeling that my view on this is in line with many in the Labour Party.

The Morning Star (the "communist's news") have been consistently gender critical.

teawamutu · 01/04/2022 09:57

And all of the above is still true despite the date and me being a twat BlushGrin

teawamutu · 01/04/2022 09:56

[quote ResisterRex]Looks like this campaign is going to the top today:

twitter.com/carolinefff/status/1509798530591903765
It is an honour to have been asked by the Prime Minister to pop in to Parliament today and explain to a packed house, with some simple slides, what a women is. #RespectmySex #LocalElections2022

I'll bring this. Our message is #RespectMySex if you want my X.
@WomensRightsNet
@WomenUnitingUK
@SexMattersOrg
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10674135/Three-women-launch-significant-female-movement-Suffragettes.html[/quote]
Oh gods I could cry. This is IMMENSE.

Women are so amazing when we get together and get angry.

DomesticatedZombie · 01/04/2022 09:55

@Ereshkigalangcleg

Is it in the print edition? I might pop out and get one if so.
same, and that will be a first for me!
DomesticatedZombie · 01/04/2022 09:55

Maya that is amazing. You are a powerhouse and a Star

ResisterRex · 01/04/2022 09:51

Looks like this campaign is going to the top today:

twitter.com/carolinefff/status/1509798530591903765
It is an honour to have been asked by the Prime Minister to pop in to Parliament today and explain to a packed house, with some simple slides, what a women is. #RespectmySex #LocalElections2022

I'll bring this. Our message is #RespectMySex if you want my X.
@WomensRightsNet
@WomenUnitingUK
@SexMattersOrg
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10674135/Three-women-launch-significant-female-movement-Suffragettes.html

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/04/2022 09:44

Do you think some readers will think it’s an April fools joke? I mean, some of the MPs responses read like a joke.

I imagine they will! Particularly Nandy.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/04/2022 09:41

Is it in the print edition? I might pop out and get one if so.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/04/2022 09:39

What a fantastic article! For all people's issues with the Mail, they have done some good reporting on this. So comprehensive.

Slothtoes · 01/04/2022 09:36

Also
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3305189-LGBT-Labour-sending-out-Orwellian-letters-to-Morning-Star-letter-signatories

I’m a Labour voter and this is mortifying.

JoodyBlue · 01/04/2022 09:36

Brava to Maya, Heather and Caroline. I have shared to FB, stating that whatever you think, silencing on the issue is bad (paraphrasing myself). When times are hard, we all look towards the leaders and ask ourselves where are the leaders. Well, here they are! So grateful FlowersFlowersFlowers

Torunette · 01/04/2022 09:30

@GeneLovesJezebel

They appear to be reducing the number of comments allowed, as there were 4 comments at about 7am, and there’s still only 4.
Yep. I posted a comment at 1am and it's still not appeared.
zanahoria · 01/04/2022 09:28

The Lisa Nandy video

CrossPurposes · 01/04/2022 09:23

The Communist Party of Britain (not the Communist Party of Great Britain - I can't tell what they think from their website) have Mary Davis writing this in the Morning Star: morningstaronline.co.uk/article/f/why-we-need-womens-movement-today

Slothtoes · 01/04/2022 09:18

Don’t wait for them Gene. I’m in the same boat as you are. The complacent, established MPs with a massive majority and all their rival candidates still need to know we care about this. Email them and ask! Flowers

EthelTheAardvark · 01/04/2022 09:17

@Mrstwiddle

It’s fantastic, I really don’t understand all the hate for the Mail, you’d never get something like this in the Guardian.
Maybe the fact that it's utterly bigoted and mendacious has something to do with it?