Rachel Reeves Today R4 just before 8

I think the more they keep mentioning gender, the more on guard I'm going to be with this.

The problem is highlighted by James Kirkup here: www.spectator.co.uk/article/starmer-won-t-talk-about-sex-and-gender-that-s-a-problem?fbclid=IwAR3YtRWSTuqujcLR8z2G94CB-ia5z_NyiP03auFZtxxWPtEozWfE6yrG5ks (Hope that link works). But if some women can genuinely have penises in law - it seems to me that the GRA needs proper reform or women without penises need a new collective noun to be used to protect their rights and dignity in law and in life.

Red Wall women voters don’t want to be in hospital next to men, don’t want women in refuges to have no space from men or women to be pushed out of sport. Rich people who can buy their way out of the NHS and can’t imagine needing to stay in a refuge or access Women’s aid care less in my experience.

Ok ok ok so sex exists and woman does mean adult human female and yes yes they do need single sex spaces BUT to #bekind any person of the male sex who wants to identify as a woman and use female single sex spaces has to be given what they want regardless of the entire female half of the human race.

Cos male people are just more important than female ones. And excluding females is much better than saying no or finding alternatives to male people.

Thanks Rachel, it's getting clearer day by day. Very interesting to see that as sex is beginning to be acknowledged as still existing that we're now getting to the real heart of it, which is that to Labour, sex is a hierarchy and female people are walking resources. Fascinating.

Didn't hear interview but what's in it for Labour taking this stance? The 'Red Wall' voters that they need to win back, won't give two hoots!

I think it was actually quite a sensible approach. Esp given she won’t have been expecting the question

Any MP not expecting this question must be bloody mad! Ever since it was asked in the Senate hearing of Ketanji Brown Jackson, asked of the Labour leader, asked of the Chancellor, why does any MP think they are exempt from being accountable to 50% of the population looking to their elected representatives to protect their rights. it should be a question they are prepared to bloody well answer, and suffer the ridicule when they can't!

So sick of this shit from MPs! It's not like it's a new topic for them to consider, it's been chugging on since the last general election at the very least.

I like Rachel Reeves, I think she is better than a lot of the current Labour lot. At least she answered the question, unlike Sunak.

Of course she expected the question. Everyone has been asked the same thing.

And this was still quite fudgy.

Just on Sky as well. Labour seem to be having to develop their position day by day, interview by interview.

"If you're a woman like you and I are". But then a large focus on trans. Then "for 99.9% of people your gender is your biology"

Then it's important to have single sex spaces like prisons and refuges. On men being asked if pregnant before a scan: "sounds a little bit odd to me".

Reeves said this wasn't being debated 11 or 12 years ago. But now it is? Couldn't quite make that part out.

She did originally fluff the answer and conflate sex and gender, but she ended with:
"I am clear that a woman has certain biological characteristics, but there are also people who were born into a different sex that identifies women and I wouldn't want to exclude them..."
She went on to assert the importance of single sex spaces.
I think it was actually quite a sensible approach. Esp given she won’t have been expecting the question

At least she used the B word - biological - but what a waffly answer after days of her colleagues being roasted for this. How does she still think trans only means the tiny cohort of people with gender dysphoria and not all the other NBs, crossdressers, chancers and whatnot? And muddled up sex and gender too.

Process of shifting back to science is going to be slow and painful for Labour. Poor Rachel Reeves is fumbling around in fog. Understanding the difference between sex and gender will help enormously. Sitting down and listening hard to some of their GC members would be a huge help