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Angela says we're 'Debasing'

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DomesticatedZombie · 30/03/2022 22:30

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/genitalia-questions-debase-trans-debate-says-angela-rayner-s893nr9f5

'Labour’s deputy leader has said it is not acceptable to ask a woman whether she has a penis, but insisted there were circumstances under which a man could be asked whether he was pregnant.'

Just for you, Ange.

PENIS.

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Clymene · 01/04/2022 22:03

@AlisonDonut

I'm grunge through and through. Never grown out of it

Afghan Whigs, Buffalo Tom, Pixies, Breeders, P J Harvey, Manics. All on my gardening playlist. Louder the better.

I recently moved house and now have a huge garden, with a large shed up the top with nobody around so I've bought a CD player with turntable, and I'm going through all my old Vinyl and CDs and nobody can hear me and my very loud music. It is fantastic.

😍😍😍
AlisonDonut · 01/04/2022 20:32

I'm grunge through and through. Never grown out of it

Afghan Whigs, Buffalo Tom, Pixies, Breeders, P J Harvey, Manics. All on my gardening playlist. Louder the better.

I recently moved house and now have a huge garden, with a large shed up the top with nobody around so I've bought a CD player with turntable, and I'm going through all my old Vinyl and CDs and nobody can hear me and my very loud music. It is fantastic.

Clymene · 01/04/2022 20:17

@AlisonDonut

I still listen to Cannonball almost on a weekly basis.
It's in my top 5 ever. Love it. I love the whole album really. And Belly/throwing muses/Kristin Hersh.

I'm grunge through and through. Never grown out of it

AlisonDonut · 01/04/2022 20:02

I still listen to Cannonball almost on a weekly basis.

Clymene · 01/04/2022 19:56

Also

Clymene · 01/04/2022 19:52

I'm so glad this thread has been an excuse for loads of Pixies songs! My favourite band of all time 😍

FOJN · 01/04/2022 19:37

The word penis or penises appears 50 times in the Spectator article, I'm loving James Kirkrups style.

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DomesticatedZombie · 01/04/2022 19:17

Did they? Bummer. I love the Breeders, too.

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ickky · 01/04/2022 17:39

@Earlydancing

It's not OK to ask a woman if she has a penis but it's OK to ask a man if he has a womb?
Very good point.
Earlydancing · 01/04/2022 16:47

It's not OK to ask a woman if she has a penis but it's OK to ask a man if he has a womb?

Delphinium20 · 01/04/2022 16:43

Pixies!! Massive fan of Kim Deal. And didn't the men push her out of the band?

ickky · 01/04/2022 12:52

Well she is right in way. The vast majority of Transwomen don't have genital reconstruction surgery, so really we don't have to ask if they have a penis because we already know the answer.

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DomesticatedZombie · 01/04/2022 11:41

Maybe like sour sweets?

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DomesticatedZombie · 01/04/2022 11:41

They were about being AMAZING Pink. Grin

The shouting! The melodies! The bass! A glorious tumbling riot of emotion and sound.

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IcakethereforeIam · 01/04/2022 11:32

Perhaps we should ask about testicles instead of penises. Watching them talk literal bollocks would have a certain poetry....and be bloody hilarious.

Pinklimey · 01/04/2022 01:05

I found those songs really hard to follow. Loud music with quiet singer/ screeching voices. What the hell were they about?

FOJN · 31/03/2022 22:53

Maybe we'll wake up and discover it's a Chris Morris sketch that got out of hand.

MP's have been fooled before ...

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/the-mp-tricked-into-condemning-a-fake-drug-called-cake-has-been-put-in-charge-of-scrutinising-drugs-policy-a6704671.html

I feel quite old now because I vividly remember watching this on Brass Eye.

SirVixofVixHall · 31/03/2022 22:12

@IcakethereforeIam

Maybe we'll wake up and discover it's a Chris Morris sketch that got out of hand.
I feel this every day.
Jonny1265 · 31/03/2022 22:06

If anyone asks me if I'm pregnant, they'll get a load of expletives. My bump was hard earned by eating copious quantities of pies.

Dillydollydingdong · 31/03/2022 21:59

I'd be most offended if someone asked me if I had a penis! Shock

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DomesticatedZombie · 31/03/2022 21:53

@FOJN

Does anyone else feel diminished by having to acknowledge and engage with the arguements of halfwits in order to defend women's rights? I'm becoming more resentful about it by the day.
preach.

Here, have some Polly to galvanise your spirit.

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KohlaParasaurus · 31/03/2022 21:49

@FOJN

Does anyone else feel diminished by having to acknowledge and engage with the arguements of halfwits in order to defend women's rights? I'm becoming more resentful about it by the day.
Totally this. We should be pushing forward to improve women's rights and instead we're having to mount a constant rearguard defence against nonsense like this, and often from people you'd think ought to know better.
IcakethereforeIam · 31/03/2022 21:46

Maybe we'll wake up and discover it's a Chris Morris sketch that got out of hand.

FOJN · 31/03/2022 21:42

Does anyone else feel diminished by having to acknowledge and engage with the arguements of halfwits in order to defend women's rights? I'm becoming more resentful about it by the day.