Breaking news - Emily won't compete

Today radio 4 declared that “ she” was being bullied for being trans. I think it is more a question of women saying no to an entitled man. Hardly bullying.

Ok so to take EB logic about not pre judging. Just suppose EB is allowed to compete and beats all the women out of sight? Would EB then accept that no one was prejudging and were in fact right alll along that EB retained significant advantage from male puberty & return to race with the men?

Would they fuck!

What a self entitled, narcissistic, teenage twerp. The whole article could just have been the words me me me me repeatedly.

This is always going to come down to individual ‘first’ cases, not just rules. It’s unfortunate that people have to be named and talked about, but if they want to demonstrate that they should be competing in the female category, there isn’t really another option than everyone seeing their physique and presentation. And we have the right to point out that they don’t share the characteristics of the other competitors.

Bridges’ statement suggests that people are somehow “pre-judging” by doing this before Bridges competes. I don’t believe seeing Bridges compete could logically change my judgment.

The comments (from a majority of men I think) under Emily's whingeing article are brutal.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b9874f1e-b1e8-11ec-8570-b43daaf58ea1?shareToken=3663f077feb6dbc29ac823aad56fa97a

Poor EB

Didn’t EB mum turn up on here last year to tell us how awful we were? 🤔

Although I do accept that being told the competition will allow participation under conditions X, then, with conditions X met, being told no, must be very disappointing.

My issue is more that it should be obvious to Bridges that it wouldn’t be fair under any circumstances.

‘Either Bridges has been so surrounded by people telling them how wonderful they are that they really believe they have been hard done by in this instance. That their desire to compete against Olympic champions is actually the most important thing.’

I think it’s this one.

Nothing in the statement about other competitors. Just ordinary narcissism.

Either Bridges has been so surrounded by people telling them how wonderful they are that they really believe they have been hard done by in this instance. That their desire to compete against Olympic champions is actually the most important thing.

Or Bridges is a performance artist/terf plant who has infiltrated the trans community and British Cycling specifically to bring this issue to light.

I'm a huge fan of Bridges either way, EB is doing wonders for women's sport.

Bridges has been participating in a study at Loughborough University to track her own power data with reduced testosterone levels - and says they show a 13-16% drop in her power outputs across six-second, one-minute, five-minute and 20-minute durations.( BBC article)

This " loss of power" doesn't seem to be affecting Emily now, given Emily's recent successes in men's races. With that "drop" Emily should not have placed amongst the men.

Bridges should get better advice before releasing entitled statements about how awful everyone has been to the person from a vulnerable minority in the sport they love. People just don’t see it that way. Male inclusion in female sport will be a disaster for the trans cause.

Very true. Despite being "well within the testosterone limits", Bridges won the men's points race, came third in the men's team pursuit and 4th in the men's individual pursuit at the British Universities and Colleges Sports Track Cycling Championships in February.

Yes, Emily's recent successes seem to prove that lowering testosterone has little or no effect on the male athlete's ability to perform at the level of other male athletes. Seems pretty conclusive that trans identifying male athletes never lose the advantages of male puberty.

No one should have to choose between being who they are and participating in the sport that they love.

Did anyone prevent Emily from participating in (and winning medals) the BUCS track champs in February?

Thought not.

Watched some entertaining racing tonight. Both the men’s and women’s omnium were great to watch, but very different. The men were just so much faster.

It seems that at the moment the lure is for all of these men to be seen as the trailblazers. I wonder if it will be so tempting to be the second trans cyclist? With the current media, the so-called "I just want to live my life quietly" brigade can make a lot of money from the notoriety.

Men in 100m, 200m, 400m running.
Men in 50m/100m/200m/400m freestyle, and on and on, all faster than the fastest women.
Just look up an Olympic event, shot put, triple jump, long jump, skiing etc, worlds best are men. Says it all.

Emily says rules were broken to stop Emily competing:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b9874f1e-b1e8-11ec-8570-b43daaf58ea1?shareToken=16e1f33970a5db38db16a633a6adc3b2

Frankly I'm sick of the media talking about the science and T levels. Ethically and morally it is not right. They can do all the science they want but the fact remains women's sport is for women. This makes me so angry and I'm not sporty. But I know friends whose daughters train so hard and if this incursion by men into women's sport does not stop those girls have no future in sport.

I agree with another poster when Bridges declares t levels are way below the 5 level - on what scale? Is 4.9995 way below or is it at 0.5. what a stupid misleading statement to make.

No one wants to stop men who say they are women from not doing sport and of course that would be discriminatory. Bridges is not being discriminated because of being trans what a ridiculous thing to say.

Also when all those sports bodies get together I am concerned that it is so they can all agree on a simple rule that will men in women's sport. One to watch.

If the person who ‘took’ that photo would like to do my work ID, I’d be hugely grateful.

I look like Les Dawson does Cell Block H (the original).

Looks like the DM snagged its photo from Emily’s Insta.

The thing is, no one is stopping Emily competing. Emily is perfectly welcome in the male category, so the pity party won’t wash. If racing was so important, surely competing with the men would fulfil that need. I mean, which is more fulfilling, a fair race or an easy win by cheating?