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Breaking news - Emily won't compete

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Doyoumind · 30/03/2022 19:29

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/60934099

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Cwenthryth · 31/03/2022 12:22

They’re going to discuss this on Politics Live now (BBC2). Stella Creasy is on the panel, they have a guest who is a trans campaigner.

bellabelly · 31/03/2022 12:22

Excellent work by Sharron. India admitting that previously believed very strongly that transwomen shouldn't be competing in women's sports. India is an idiot.

WinterTrees · 31/03/2022 12:21

Sharron just pointed out that India themself said that transwomen shouldn't be competing against women in sport.

Chrysanthemum5 · 31/03/2022 12:21

Now on Jeremy Vine, India Willoughby talking absolute rubbish as usual - suggesting bigger football players have an advantage over smaller ones but we don't ban them. Indeed Willoughby because they are all within the normal boundaries for men. Whereas transwomen are not women so cannot be within normal boundaries for women.

It's not hard

Runningupthecurtains · 31/03/2022 12:20

Having taken a place of a female on the team, I suspect a tactic in the first race of deliberately not winning ("there's no problem you see!" say the blue ticked men) and from there take from female athletes a piece at a time

Not unlike the much heralded first TW to openly compete in the women's category at the Olympics who happened to be 20 years older than the average participant in that event and suffering an injury that it usually career end so happened not to do very well?

WinterTrees · 31/03/2022 12:19

India doing a specially wobbly voice because of Sharron's 'trans-aggression'. India just wants to have a chance to speak.

JV points out they're just having a heated discussion.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 31/03/2022 12:19

What is the max testosterone levels permitted in female athletes?

bellabelly · 31/03/2022 12:18

Oh, is it India Willoughby? I missed the intro. I am not sure that India is the best person to represent the other side of the debate - always so me, me, me.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 31/03/2022 12:17

@JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon

Jeremy Vine is discussing this article on Radio 2 today if anyone fancies calling in.
Sharon was excellent on this.

Why do they always wheel our India to give the trans view?

WinterTrees · 31/03/2022 12:16

India Willoughby weighing in with a lot of extremely dodgy 'facts', that any listener would know immediately aren't true.

Peter Crouch has an advantage as a goalkeeper because he's tall, but we don't stop him playing football. 🙄

bellabelly · 31/03/2022 12:16

Oh, I'm so glad it's Sharron Davies. She's been an absolute hero, sticking her neck out when others wouldn't.

Fizbosshoes · 31/03/2022 12:15

Sharon Davies and India Willoughby on Jeremy Vine.

bellabelly · 31/03/2022 12:15

Now someone (Emily, maybe?) banging on about Cis Women and how trans athletes have no advantage because science.

ResisterRex · 31/03/2022 12:15
Shock

India(?) saying Sharron said "downright lies"

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 31/03/2022 12:14

Sharron Davies is doing a wonderful job on Radio 2

Jeremy won't answer what "transition" means

WinterTrees · 31/03/2022 12:13

The speaker is Sharron Davies. She's been in this rodeo for a while. She knows her stuff. (Like Maya. Like all of us.)

'But she's transitioned,' says JV, on the subject of Emily competing with women.
'But what does that mean?' says SD.
'I don't want to answer that question,' says JV.

bellabelly · 31/03/2022 12:13

Jeremy refusing to answer question about what transitioning actually means.

bellabelly · 31/03/2022 12:11

Very clear about male advantage.

bellabelly · 31/03/2022 12:11

Listening to Vine right now. Good first speaker.

WinterTrees · 31/03/2022 12:07

Just turned over to listen to the Jeremy Vine coverage. He used to be comically 'be kind', with a special soft, compassionate voice for TW and much admiration for their bravery, but he listened to the Nolan podcast which I think may have opened his eyes a bit to the shitshow, poor lamb.

LizzieSiddal · 31/03/2022 12:06

Sorry Laura. But maybe something like this needs to happen in a Laura Kenny race. She is a well known national treasure. It would peak the whole country.

I agree. I remember about four years ago, someone saying the same. Why didn’t the sporting bodies see it coming a mile off? I expect they presumed women athletes would “be kind”.Angry

notacooldad · 31/03/2022 12:06

👏

Femalewoman · 31/03/2022 12:04

@Plasmodesmata

Are Emily's qualifications good enough for a spot on the male team? If so then Emily could still compete this weekend. A male teammate could give up his spot no problem, right?
Exactly. Biological male against biological male.
EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 31/03/2022 12:04

@AnyFucker

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There is strong speculation that, as with F1, there might be team orders not to break Kenny's records or achievements straightaway…

Bridges still as time and opportunities to qualify for the Olympics.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10671179/Trans-cyclist-Emily-Bridges-BARRED-national-championships.html

Femalewoman · 31/03/2022 12:02

Good. Individuals born male should not compete against individuals born female. You can change your gender but you cannot change your biological sex so therefore have massive physical advantage if born male over a person born female.