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201 babies and 9 women died, 94 babies with life changing injuries, all avoidable

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Lovelyricepudding · 30/03/2022 13:12

At one hospital. Sad Who knows about other hospitals? A system set up for internal investigation that looked like it may have been designed to avoid external involvement.

This is the state of maternity care in the UK.

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DomesticatedZombie · 30/03/2022 13:50

Eight?!

What will happen to all of those who failed to properly investigate?

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Lovelyricepudding · 30/03/2022 13:46

Eight? What did they actually do to miss so much? I can guess one thing they didn't do - speak to the women.

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Gingernaut · 30/03/2022 13:42

The bravery of the two mothers who initiated the investigation cannot be underestimated.

Eight seperate bodies were involved in inspecting care at the trust and all found nothing to be concerned about.

It is only thanks to Rhiannon Davies and Kayleigh Griffiths that this investigation was ever instigated.

DomesticatedZombie · 30/03/2022 13:32

@BattenbergdowntheHatches

Sadly, I do not think this will come as a big surprise to anyone who has experienced NHS maternity care. It is absolutely scandalous and it plainly cannot, or will not, be improved.
My children were born in different hospitals in different LAs. Going by the care I received I could have been in two different countries - one hospital was appalling - crowded and run-down with callous, misogynist staff and horrible procedures and behaviour at all levels. It was brutal, frankly. The other was amazing: woman-centred, supportive, caring and compassionate throughout, and the facilities excellent.

So I think it hugely depends on individual trusts/LAs/hospitals. At least in my experience. This disparity shouldn't be the case, of course. All women should have access to the kind of excellent care that the NHS is plainly capable of offering.

OvaHere · 30/03/2022 13:30

@MrsPear

It does not surprise me at all. I tried to complaining about my care at my local hospital and i was told get a solicitor and be prepared for your medical details to be shared with the media. I went silent to my shame. There is no accountability and there is zero care just protection for themselves. If this culture isn’t changed then more will die unnecessarily.
That's awful. I don't blame you at all for letting it drop. Most women would due to self protection. Flowers
Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 30/03/2022 13:29

My son was born in a traumatic 'natural birth gone wrong' and I feel that we experienced a near miss that night.
I can't believe that 20 years later it has not improved and the problems seem to remain.

DomesticatedZombie · 30/03/2022 13:28

Horrific. Just absolutely horrific.

MythicalBiologicalFennel · 30/03/2022 13:25

BTW by ideology I mean:

  1. Austerity and budget cuts by the government
  2. Systematic misogyny, both in society and in the NHS
  3. The "normal" and natural labour as a default
MythicalBiologicalFennel · 30/03/2022 13:22

Devastating. Over 200 people dead and nearly a 100 left disabled because of incompetence, arrogance and ideology. However like a pp says I am not surprised.

MrsPear · 30/03/2022 13:20

It does not surprise me at all. I tried to complaining about my care at my local hospital and i was told get a solicitor and be prepared for your medical details to be shared with the media. I went silent to my shame. There is no accountability and there is zero care just protection for themselves. If this culture isn’t changed then more will die unnecessarily.

BattenbergdowntheHatches · 30/03/2022 13:16

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334bu · 30/03/2022 13:16

Absolutely appalling.

tabbycatstripy · 30/03/2022 13:15

Atrocious. Sajid Javid just committed to setting out in his new health strategy how women will be listened to in the health service. I hope he gets it right.

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