201 babies and 9 women died, 94 babies with life changing injuries, all avoidable

Women and children still dying. Now

And the ceo will still not resign

Fuckers. Fuckers

Can’t tell you how much this is wrong

RobotValkyrie & TammyOne

This is so difficult for so many women to contemplate. It brings back so many grim experiences of child birth.

This needs to be something that we're challenging politicians about on the doorstep - what are they doing to solve it?

And the so-called natural birth movement is not empowering, it's exploitative (making big bucks out of selling a dream) and gaslighting (blaming women for things largely out of their control)

Not surprised in the least. I had ptsd for a couple of years following negligent staff and baby nearly dying. The worst thing though was how NASTY most of the midwives were, especially on the ward after. Not just to me, to all the women. The hospital lied on my discharge papers about what happened but I was too tired and glad to be out of there to chase it up. I said after I would rather give birth behind the bins at Sainsbury than ever take my chances in a maternity ward again. What really struck me was thd contempt for the mothers. It is mysogyny. 100%

I've had two by CS not at Shrewsbury and, stupidly, I do feel embarrassed about it. I don't think I'll read the report. I can't imagine what it must feel like to lose a child and when it's completely avoidable...I hope people go to jail for this. For the families involved, I hope you get justice, I hope time brings healing.

All 3 of my dc were born at Shrewsbury within the time frame. All maternity staff had an anti c-section attitude, during my 2nd pregnancy I was told "you WILL have a VBAC', no discussion of any of the risks.
I experienced some callous, uncaring staff, including a consultant who would not speak to me, just said to the midwife "tell the patient I am going to examine her" and after a painful internal, walked away without explaining why I needed the exam and what was found. The midwife had to come back and explain later.
We were lucky, I had 3 healthy babies and no complications.
A little girl, born the same week as my dd2 died.

Having had the experience I had at the hands of our supposedly wonderful NHS this doesn't surprise me. At all.

Unbelievable and testament to the lack of care and rigour that is applied to women's health generally. With Black women 4 times more likely to die in childbirth, countless women's lives are affected by avoidable birth injuries, when maternity services are scandalously under funded and resourced and giving birth is a chaotic and unpleasant experience for so many women what is the response from the NHS?
Ears covered, eyes closed and let's invest millions of £££ in pointless diversity initiatives.

As I said, the natural birth or - quite literally - die thing was rampant with mothers too. I remember walking along with a woman and meeting an acquaintance with a new baby. This woman immediately demanded, “Was it a natural birth?” The mother said yes and the woman I was with nodded and replied, “Well done - you must feel empowered.” I was stupefied.

And I have seen threads on here etc with people saying they feel “failures” for having caesarians as if they have somehow missed out on a wonderful experience. A colleague gave birth in 20 minutes and was invited by the midwives at the hospital to come back to talk to expectant mothers. I kept my counsel but felt that was a mistake - using the one in a million woman as the shining example.

to all those affected
Hoardasurass

Those poor families. Unfortunately it's entirely unsurprising. Similar stories where I gave birth, and still an obsession with natural birth.

I gave birth here too - 2008. Clearly, both me and my DC were very lucky.

I was on the Midwife led unit and they were fanatical about not having the consultants come in and assist. I was there for quite some time (prolonged birth) and saw a few midwives come and go on/off shift. Some were lovely, and some were downright vile e.g. when trying to explain why I really couldn't face an internal examination, one Midwife's response was ' have you been raped in the past or something?' or another one who simply refused me pain relief until I let her do yet another examination (I was really struggling with the 'rummaging' after one of them had been really rough with me).

Lots of indicators of something being catastrophically wrong here after years of this being in the news, and then reading the findings today.

There is a West Mercia Police investigation into this - OP LINCOLN. They are asking for people who have concerns about their care to contact them.

mipp.police.uk/operation/22HQ19D84-PO1

Those poor babies and mothers. I could weep for them.

I’m not sure it’s misogyny, in fact quite the opposite as it was the drive for natural births after the perceived over-medicalisation of childbirth.

When ds was born natural childbirth was the only thing and in fact there was quite a bit of Caesarian shaming amongst other mothers making women feel they’d failed for not doing it “properly”. It was all birth plans and the idea that a birth is under the mother’s control. No wonder people were bewildered and disappointed afterwards when a bit of whale music and three puffs didn’t cut the mustard.

I had a horrific delivery. I nearly died and was in hospital for two weeks. Ds was sickly. The care was awful. Some of the midwives were mean and lazy (I saw one at night with earplugs in doing Take a Break puzzles). I was given a private room (to avoid distressing the other mothers!) and the ward manager shouted at me and demanded to know why I was there (whilst I was having a blood transfusion). The cleaner had special needs and they were unable to clean properly. The loos were full of blood and all sorts and the cleaner was just pushing the mop around smearing it farther around.

I am happy to say that when I went there again they had had a revamp and it was, although horribly busy, much, much better organised and although I had another difficult birth they seemed keener to offer support and intervention.

'This report will now be our legacy – it is for Pippa and Kate, and for all those other families that have been through the worst thing any of us can ever go through. At least now, our families will have real answers.'

www.independent.co.uk/voices/shrewsbury-hospital-scandal-baby-deaths-b2046523.html

to all those affected

Not a bit surprised at this and the only thing that staggers me is that still people bang on about 'our wonderful NHS'. It's third world. Had a midwife sneer at me for having blow dried my hair and put make up on when I went in, at their request, early labour for a check on mucus plug. She said you won't be looking like that in twelve hours. My dh removed her from the room and insisted she didn't get near me again in labour.

Thank you @Artichokeleaves I count myself as 1 of the lucky women, I know dozens who had much worse outcomes and injuries that have ruined their lives and others that have lost children I honestly believe that if a report was done into our trust it would be as bad if not worse than this.
I do wonder why we put up with this sort of treatment but then I remember that women aren't allowed to complain

for anyone affected by poor care at this Trust or any others.

I've never forgotten the bitch of a midwife who told me after a horrible delivery not to expect special treatment because I was a nurse. But I'm lucky that I have 3 healthy children.

Why oh why are women dismissed? No one suggests doing prostrate surgery without an anaesthetic or pain control do they?

So awful. Just words. Can’t describe

The most dangerous time in a woman’s and child’s life Birth

So sorry for all of you
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Hoardasurass that is absolutely bloody horrific, I am so sorry

to all the women and children who have suffered in all this. They'd better bloody well know what 'women' they're talking about 'listening to' for the purposes of sorting this awful mess out.

I was almost killed by a midwife at the only maternity hospital in my entire health board (yep that's right only 1 for an entire health board) I can't fault the paramedics who delivered my ds or the staff in the ICU and HDU nor those who looked after ds in the NICU but the midwife who decided that she knew better than the consultant (who wanted to surgically removed the placenta) thought it would be a good idea to manually remove my placenta whilst I was semi conscious without even talking to me first and caused me to bleed out and needing emergency surgery and 8 pints of blood transfused I don't even hold 8 pints of blood.
The hospital "lost" all my records and notes I can never have another child because of them (thankfully he was my 2nd ) and I didn't even get an apology. They are gaslighting abusive *insert expletives who all cover for each other

to all who were also affected not just at the hospital's involved but elsewhere.

Horrific, frightening but sadly unsurprising.

I tend not to dwell, mainly because I don't actually know all the details but during delivery of my first the mw said "I'm not supposed to do this, but I've got to." And cut the umbilical cord whilst she was still inside, I'm presuming because the cord was so tight it couldn't be unlooped (and would also explain the difficulty in delivering as she kept slipping back up) I guess it could have been a very different outcome, very easily.

Ditto. DD and I have permanent scars from a Shrewsbury hospital delivery in 2007. I count myself lucky she didn't die or suffer more serious injuries. It's been a really emotional day for me today, thinking of what could have been and thinking of all the live lost and families destroyed by that place.

Both of my children were born in Telford hospital, in the period covered by this report, so I've been aware of the investigation and its been reported in the local press that it was happening etc. I haven't been able to bring myself to actually read the report yet, the headlines on the radio this morning were pretty horrifying. My heart breaks for all of the families affected.