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Sir Keir Starmer on women's rights, sport, and penises, in LBC interview

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IsitM · 28/03/2022 11:06

Not an original description, but 'car crash' is appropriate. From 9.30 this morning; if you want to listen to the whole thing.

www.lbc.co.uk/radio/special-shows/call-keir/sir-keir-live-march-28/

www.lbc.co.uk/news/keir-starmer-lashes-out-intolerance-transgender-issues/

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bellinisurge · 28/03/2022 11:57

Still not voting Labour anytime soon. Until Corbyn, I voted Labour since 1987.

tabbycatstripy · 28/03/2022 11:55

'The more males that are "legally" women, the sex category of woman as a protected characteristic for equality aims will be less based on biological sex and women's health and safety.'

True. He knows this very well.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/03/2022 11:53

Apologies I should have put the quotes around "women".

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/03/2022 11:53

the interpretation that succeeds is that the single-sex exceptions mean legal sex, not biological sex.

The more males that are "legally" women, the sex category of woman as a protected characteristic for equality aims will be less based on biological sex and women's health and safety.

tabbycatstripy · 28/03/2022 11:44

Starmer wants to reform the GRA to bring in gender self-ID so that anyone who wants the legal status of being 'female' can have it with minimal medical gatekeeping or reflection time.

The result of that shouldn't affect the provisions in the Equality Act, but will, if the interpretation that succeeds is that the single-sex exceptions mean legal sex, not biological sex.

AuntyFungal · 28/03/2022 11:38

I’ve searched on Labour’s site - perhaps I’m missing it.

What are the actual changes Labour want to make to the GRA/GRC & knock ons’ for the Eq Act?

I would like to see interviewers ask these questions. It’s all well and good to ask the sharp, sound bite type questions and laugh at the word salad squirm but I’d like to see them pinned down by their own manifesto.

Or are Labour too weasely to write them down, just reliant on general themes and non committal words?

tabbycatstripy · 28/03/2022 11:34

That was about as clear as mud, wasn't it?

'Safe spaces for women'.

He says all adult females are women, but in that definition, does he exclude, or include, people who have acquired LEGAL female status through the process of gender reassignment, and does he exclude, or include, people who claim to be 'women' through self-ID?

Obviously if self-ID goes through and the answer is that he wants to INCLUDE people who have acquired legal female status through the process of gender reassignment in women's safe spaces, then it means there are no safe spaces for biological females.

He is so disingenuous.

Andante57 · 28/03/2022 11:25

Yes Keir wasn’t exactly articulate.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/03/2022 11:09

That went well! Good on Nick Ferrari for making him squirm.

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