To wonder why an MP is lying about womens bathrooms?

*answer simple questions

How quick to rage? A woman wrote to her MP. How do you know how quickly she got annoyed?

She asked where the women's toilets were! 'Women are being erased' was her comment to the MP afterwards, after being given the impression there were no women's toilets.

You are putting the cart before the horse. Because a customer formed a poor impression of the business after excrable customer service, you are saying she only received excrable service because she was going to write to her MP about it?

And even if she had made comments about women being erased, it is still incredibly unprofessional of an usher not to direct her to the nearest women's toilets, and thus manage the situation. If the Barbican is employing staff who can't answer simple instructions, then it's a miserable excuse for a business.

Has the Barbican commented on the tweet yet?

Yes, “ We try to be a welcoming and inclusive place for everyone. We have toilets for women, men, and gender neutral toilets, and toilets for people with disabilities.”

the concept of the 'main' womens bathroom is a bit of a misnomer.

Correct. They are not bathrooms.

Has the Barbican commented on the tweet yet?

If the woman implied to the worker that “women are being erased” because she couldn’t find the female toilet, which isn’t out of the realm of possibility given how quick she is was to rage over the issue, then I’m not surprised she was laughed at given how ridiculous it all is.

The Barbican has male toilets, female toilets and neutral toilets - ie both can use this space.

Literally a non issue.

ScreamingBeans

LOL at people who claim that men are women if they say they are, complaining about lies and fake news.

You couldn't make it up.

So are you comfortable with an MP spreading lies or not?

Of course not. But that's not what happened here. She didn't lie, you did.

Gender neutral just means that you can use them regardless of your gender.

Yeah, male and female toilets are gender neutral, you use them by sex. so males of any gender can use the male toilets and females of any gender can use the female toilets.

Have posters come back to point out where the MP was lying?

I see a number agreeing that she is lying but have they read the tweet? Can they tell us where the MP was lying? Did the MP or didn’t the MP receive the message from a woman that the MP put in their tweet?

Are people so entrenched in their hatred of MPs in general or of a particular political party that they are willing to call the MP a liar because OP said so?

TBF, I've not been there since the repurposing

So you've never actually seen the thing that you're accusing a woman of lying about?

@TeaKlaxon

Eh? As per picture further up thread - it shows gender neutral toilets then disabled then men's toilets. That's where I went to the toilet and couldn't find a women's toilet. There were no urinals in the g/n toilets!

I can see how this came about.

If I'd been there, I wouldn't have wanted to use any of the signposted options of 'men's' - not me, I'm a woman - or 'gender neutral' = unisex - I'd prefer a single sex facility - or 'disabled' - I'm not entitled to use these & would not want to get in the way of a disabled person.

So I'd ask to be directed to the 'women's' toilets. Which does technically encompass the 'unisex' ones misleadingly branded as 'gender neutral', as women who are OK with sharing facilities with men can use these.

I'd need to specify 'women's single sex' to avoid being directed to the unisex facilities which appear to be provided now alongside 'men', & in place of 'women'. So I might well explain that unisex didn't suit, please point me at the actual women's toilet.

& I'd be bloody irritated, especially if I needed the women's toilet fairly urgently, a) to find they weren't provided on an equitable basis alongside the facilities set aside exclusively for men, & b) to be sneered at for asking.

The fairest explanation of ABU on the thread.
I'm still waiting for your thread on David Lammy lying about men being able to grow a cervix. Ditto ones about various MPs repeating the "most vulnerable" line.

Or aren't you that concerned about MPs telling porkies, after all?

I received this message today: “I was at the Barbican yesterday where there were male toilets, disabled toilets, and gender neutral toilets. I asked where were the female toilets as I am not gender neutral I am a woman and they laughed in my face. Women are being erased.”

This is the tweet we are talking about.

Limited exceptions such as....?

Cause every time I've seen 'limited exceptions' try to happen I've seen TRA push back, tantrums, accusations of bullying, accusations of wanting trans people dead, to not exist, complaints, call for for sackings, defunding, and all round hyperbole. Case in point Womens Aid. A commitment to provide inclusive spaces and services AS WELL AS single sex spaces. Not only single sex spaces, although you might be mistaken given the ensuing twitter tantrum, mantra chanting and commitment from other organisations that they'll make sure those women will be forced to share with males against their will or else it's no support for them

You haven't been since they wer repurposed?

Well colour me pink!

Or do you mean she came out of gender neutral toilets that had previously been mens toilets so still have urinals etc?

I am confused! If the toilets have urinals then they aren't gender neutral they are men's toilets. So she was in the Men's????

I'm so glad this thread has clarified that we do not call lavatories bathrooms in the UK, although some would consider it not the done thing to call them toilets either.