Male violence at the Oscars

It seems like a stressed person not reacting in a proper way. Not excusing but we have all had red mist occasions

I haven't seen it so I can't really say what I think, but the one thing I would say in mitigation is that it's harder to hear someone you love being mocked than to be mocked yourself. If Rock had made fun of Will Smith, perhaps he'd have just laughed at the joke, but to hear your wife made fun of like that - it's just horrible and cruel. If someone publicly made fun of my partner or other family member like that I would be absolutely enraged.

He’s got issues. He watched his dad smack his Mum so hard in the side of the head that she spat blood and never forgave himself for not standing up for her. Not justifying it but that’s clearly where it came from.

It was totally 100% unacceptable and WS should have been removed. The only thought I had was whether as well as shock people thought it could be some kind of stunt, it seemed such a crazy thing to happen it probably caused a lot of confusion. It should now hopefully cause a lot of outrage.

"This is just... I mean, we all talk about male violence being the problem, and here is a high profile example of a man using violence in response to words, and so many people are rushing to justify it as totally acceptable"

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It was controlled violence with designed humiliation. Open hand to the face by a male on a male is not accidental.

Just using the open hand is designed to limit the damage and allows any fight to continue. WS will have been trained as a boxer for some of his movies. No punch in the stomach to wind or punch in the mouth. Minimum physical damage maximum public spectacle. Using the words "my wife" focus the responsibility on and justification by WS on WS. He's not stupid all of that was a calculated decision.

The O's are about the actors not the characters this film was about MR Williams, father and coach, fighting trying to get the best for his children. Anybody spot a theme?

WS demonstrated why controlled physical violence is an effective tool in forcing behaviours.
The people will sympathise with him because it was controlled. Its shows there is a physical risk associated with saying something when the listener has physical access. Woke cancel culture, woke V cancel culture, so many variations from multiple view points.

The difference imo between a joke and this is that this was personal and an abusive comment. I had seen the clip but could not work out what giJane had to do with her. Roasting, imo required the roastees participation.

He could be charged, as i understand that, Cal has provisions for non-complainant witness prosecution. Introduced to deal with domestic abuse so the video evidence and verbal exchange could be used. So if it was staged CR and producers would have to make a statement to officials.

So its a watch this space and how good are the lawyers involved.

'Middle class people tend to opt for lawyers.'

This is crass stereotyping. Working class people aren't all violent types who slap people for making bad jokes, you know.

I was v surprised, he comes across as so cheerful and light but clearly he is harbouring a lot of rage. He must be sitting around a 7 all the time to erupt like that.

Imagine what he does when the public isn't watching 🙈

Also rather bizarre to hear it discussed with outrage on BBC Radio 5 this morning, a channel which many evenings hosts, for our listening pleasure, two working class men going into an arena to beat seven shades of shit out of each other just for money.

Ohhh I can only imagine what his like behind closed doors. Disgusting excuse for a human being. Then he goes on to preach about love. Idiot!

Can you imagine the reaction and headlines/ terminology if a woman had assaulted someone! Will Smith is completely out of order. Maybe jada's revelations in the last few years made him feel like he had to prove his masculinity in the worst possible way. But he's also proved what an unhinged and violent man he is too. His actions diminished his own work and the work of the many people of colour and women who were nominated and won awards last night.

[quote RoseslnTheHospital]@IvyTwines so you're ok with men using violence to address things if they get upset with what people say?[/quote]
I'm fine with a man getting up and slapping another man who has just mocked the physical appearance of the woman he loves, who has hair loss, in front of an audience of millions of people, yes.

"Very disappointing"

Evergreen comment on the guardian tbf

The Guardian has written a sympathetic article about how hard his childhood was and how this explains his reaction. His childhood sounds awful, but I’m sure a lot of violent men have traumatic, violent childhoods, and this doesn’t make their perpetuation of violence ok. Very disappointing.
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/mar/28/will-smith-abusive-childhood-chris-rock-oscars

'Maybe it's a class thing, but I'm fine with it.'

You're fine with young people watching this and thinking you can just slap your way out of a disagreement?

Also, probably not a class thing. I'm working class myself.

I'm genuinely surprised by the outrage.

Maybe it's a class thing, but I'm fine with it.

He is a disgrace. I was huge fan, thought he was one of the good guys.

The fact he laughed to begin with, and now the footage of him partying away with his Oscar afterwards. He's not worried. But hey, this is a society where words are actual violence and some people are infinitely more equal than others.

Yes and yes re: him defending his property. I completely understand the impulse to step in and defend a loved one if they’re being attacked, but I can stand up for myself if I’m being insulted. If I feel the need to.
If I was Jada Pinkett Smith I would be furious with him for doing that on my account.

Just wrong wrong wrong

Hitting someone is wrong