Transwomen advocates for women

Debbie Hayton’s interview with Stella O’Malley is worth watching, probably not for the reasons Debbie thinks.

I met Kristina briefly at a woman’s place meeting, gave the impression they couldn’t be arsed to chat to women there that they didn't deem as important but all smiles and charm for the speakers/organisers.

No.

No man in womanface can ever speak for me. I do not consent. Live freely, attend to your own transperson rights but keep the fuck out of my spaces and out of my natural- born-woman's face.

Women need to stop hearing, listening to, respecting, valuing the opinions and contributions of men in dresses. And the same for men - ignore them too, including Graham-Oh-Look-I'm-Crying-Again-Linehan.

Corinna Cohn now identifies as transgender rather that a trans woman and has help with the term is a slur page and advocated for women's sports and single sex spaces

I would also suggest searching for some of the threads where TW have spoken with female people here on MN, some of whom (DH included) have been willing to discuss female rights.

What quickly becomes apparent is that in fact many of those posters are interested in their own preferred outcome which is that they decide where the gatekeeping on female single sex spaces happens, and it place that gatekeeping to their own advantage.

You also start to notice the belief that there is a higher authority and entitlement to decide for females and inform females of what their decision is on what said females may and may not keep and what male born people will be commandeering. They do not see female people as having a say: merely as being permitted to put their evidence and requests to the senior management of male born people who will then let them know their carefully reached decision.

The extreme end sexism of this consistently escapes them.

You will also notice that they are usually regretfully willing to exclude female people from female spaces in order to meet their own needs, and see this as a fair price.

You may find it interesting to look up some of Lily Madigan's work as a TW who took a women's officer post: much is on record.

Madigan I believe explained that any female based biological/women's issue that was not shared by TW was therefore not a women's need and would not be represented.

That was about the point I accepted that this was never, never going to work.

There are several. Miranda Yardley, Kristina Harrison who spoke at A Woman's Place meetings, Fionne Orlander, SevenHex on Twitter. Blaire White in the US often attracts flak from all directions.

A few transmen, too - Buck Angel springs to mind.

Debbie Hayton at the Spectator?

Just to add it's a bit like trying to find allies in conservative men who believe women belong in the kitchen.

They might believe in sex as a real thing, but their ideological feelings about what that means for women and the restrictions we should have don't align with feminism.

This is why this is so difficult to fight, we're largely on our own.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the very fact they accept the mantle of trans women is a signifier their concern for women only goes as far as they can align with it.

I have seen numerous posters on here who claim to be trans and ask how they can be good allies to women. However, it soon becomes clear that their support is dependent on their own demands: eg. Transwomen who have had surgery allowed in female safe spaces, pronouns adhered to for x type of trans women but not z. It seems more an exercise to ensure they are in the sacred caste with other 'not true' trans cast out

The very fact they use the word women with the insulting sexism that implies is enough to make me question motivation. That's my own personal feeling and not a generalisation.

You may find allies in ones who profess themselves to be transvestites, but I expect our views on sexism can't possibly align, because what they consider the trappings of womanhood are generally rather sexist.
Again, I use the words may and generally so not a sweeping statement...