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pop91 · 2022-03-27T02:06:22+00:00

Hypothetical: Say there was a perfect sex change in the future where every single cell could be recoded as male for a trans man, would you then accept transmen as men? or would they need to be born male even if their entire physicality and biology were changed? (To be clear this sex change would hypothetically naturally dissolve breasts and naturally create a penis as well as *ALL* other physical changes)

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pop91 · 27/03/2022 04:15

@Kanaloa

But anyway I’d say you were proposing magic because I don’t see any realistic medical procedure that would dissolve boobs and internal organs and magic up a penis with no apparent leftover hormones or anything else. Otherwise you could say ‘the housing crisis would be solved if there was a way to conjure up fully built houses at no cost. No it’s not magic, just a future construction idea.’

seems no one wants to answer the actual question

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pop91 · 27/03/2022 04:14

@Zapx

As we're dealing with hypotheticals...

if someone were to do this thing to someone against their will would you consider them male or female?

Yes, I would consider them to have changed sex but not gender.

As I believe Sex and Gender are different and you do not.

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Zapx · 27/03/2022 04:09

@Kanaloa did you watch it?

Kanaloa · 27/03/2022 04:03

But anyway I’d say you were proposing magic because I don’t see any realistic medical procedure that would dissolve boobs and internal organs and magic up a penis with no apparent leftover hormones or anything else. Otherwise you could say ‘the housing crisis would be solved if there was a way to conjure up fully built houses at no cost. No it’s not magic, just a future construction idea.’

Kanaloa · 27/03/2022 04:01

@Zapx

As we're dealing with hypotheticals...

if someone were to do this thing to someone against their will would you consider them male or female?

There’s a film of that. About a hitman? I think, who is kidnapped and forced to undergo a sex change to be female. DH sent a link to me saying ‘I know you love bad films.’

Cwenthryth · 27/03/2022 03:57

That’s an excellent question Zapx

What do you think OP? What is your answer to your own original question as well?

Zapx · 27/03/2022 03:54

As we're dealing with hypotheticals... if someone were to do this thing to someone against their will would you consider them male or female?

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pop91 · 27/03/2022 03:40

@Delphinium20

Science fiction is a strong selling genre right now. Why not write this as a novel and published it on Kindle?

The future is endless let's see where it takes us

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pop91 · 27/03/2022 03:39

@Kanaloa

What so someone would wave a magic wand and turn the person into a man? I mean I don’t know how that would make me feel. It’s like saying ‘if we all lived in Butler’s Bloodchild would we think the aliens were bad because we know paedophilia and consent exist?’ Well I don’t know because I’d have been changed by that mythical alien world. Same in this case. If magic existed I don’t know how I’d feel about the magical things that happened.

I wasn't proposing Magic but a medical procedure made possible by future science.

Like a super-advanced future version of CRISPR.

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Delphinium20 · 27/03/2022 03:26

Science fiction is a strong selling genre right now. Why not write this as a novel and published it on Kindle?

Kanaloa · 27/03/2022 03:25

What so someone would wave a magic wand and turn the person into a man? I mean I don’t know how that would make me feel. It’s like saying ‘if we all lived in Butler’s Bloodchild would we think the aliens were bad because we know paedophilia and consent exist?’ Well I don’t know because I’d have been changed by that mythical alien world. Same in this case. If magic existed I don’t know how I’d feel about the magical things that happened.

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pop91 · 27/03/2022 03:22

@Cwenthryth

What’s the point of this thought experiment that has no bearing on reality?

why did Plato discuss the Ship of Theseus? Why did the Greeks think about Zeus? IDK I'm wondering that's all.

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Cwenthryth · 27/03/2022 03:10

What’s the point of this thought experiment that has no bearing on reality?