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‘Trans women have been using women's spaces for years’

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DameHelena · 26/03/2022 19:41

What does one say to this argument? I’m instinctively sceptical but I don’t know if I’m right to be.

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DameHelena · 26/03/2022 19:50

Thanks folks. Zero, your point makes particular sense; I hadn’t thought about that.

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NancyDrawed · 26/03/2022 19:49

The implication is that TW pass so well that they used our spaces and we never even realised

The reality is, that in years gone by, when trans = transexual and there were far fewer men claiming a trans identity, women clocked an outsider in our spaces and either kept quiet through kindness or fear.

But now it appears that every second male wants in for either dysphoria, power or fetish so not only have the sort of male coming in changed, the numbers have increased. And now women are saying no.

FromOurHatsToOurFeet · 26/03/2022 19:48

They might have been but it doesn't mean women didn't notice and didn't mind.

Zerogravity · 26/03/2022 19:46
  1. trans used to mean transexuals and there were very few so most people would not encounter them. Nowadays it is clear that there are a lot of chancers who just like to frighten women by insisting they're women too.
  2. just because they did, doesn't mean women were happy about it. We weren't consulted and we are now saying no.
CatherinaJTV · 26/03/2022 19:46

@Monitaurus

Because when women or girls challenge men we never know what reaction we will get and fear male violence. We always know when men are using our facilities and we don’t want them there.
no, because you a) rarely notice and b) they can legally use the ladies
CatherinaJTV · 26/03/2022 19:45

of course they have, far longer than the EA2010 - there's a legal website out there that chronicles the legal history of toilet use in work places (can't be arsed to find the link at the moment)

Monitaurus · 26/03/2022 19:44

Because when women or girls challenge men we never know what reaction we will get and fear male violence. We always know when men are using our facilities and we don’t want them there.