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JKR being burned again thanks to Putin

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Theeyeballsinthefuckingsky · 25/03/2022 14:45

Twitter is awash with blue ticks doing lots of “JKR is on a level with putin” and sky news have helpfully Hmm amplified it

t.co/6mhxE2Wvee

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Hasselhoffsheadband · 26/03/2022 10:20

Also JKR and other feminists being very friendly with anti-gay marriage/anti-abortion campaigner Caroline Farrow, a director of CitizenGo

She expressed sympathy for a woman who has suffered pretty horrendous online abuse from a number of males, including one who had a conviction for attacking a man with a golf club, and then made 'jokes' towards her about playing golf.

I disagree with Caroline Farrow on most issues but that doesn't mean I can't think that the way she has been treated is bad.

This sort of thing is really basic human social interaction, you do realise that don't you?

OldCrone · 26/03/2022 10:17

Also JKR and other feminists being very friendly with anti-gay marriage/anti-abortion campaigner Caroline Farrow, a director of CitizenGo

"I saw you talking to Caroline once. She's a Tory and a Catholic. So you must be an anti-abortionist bigot."

Grow up.

KlariceKliff · 26/03/2022 10:14

Ceri Black (@FemmeLoves on Twitter) is on record as saying CF is her friend and defending her.

CF is very much in their clique.

334bu · 26/03/2022 10:14

sorry should have previewed text

Hasselhoffsheadband · 26/03/2022 10:14

Isn't what Putin has done here just an extension of the Russian troll farms? Russia have their eye on everything in the West, including the hottest social topics and the ones that cause the most division. They then deploy stuff online related to those topics (eg. US Election etc)

Do People really think that Putin invoked JK Rowling because he actually sympathises with her, or gives a shit about anything she has said? Or is it because he knows that those key words 'JK Rowling' from him, would immediately cause a frenzy, which it has? And the bloody thickos have walked right into it!

Do men like Owen Jones and James Felton really think that feminists are going to think 'shit, Putin said JRK's name, I am immediately going to change my mind on all these things: puberty blockers for any child that wants them! Any male who fancies it is welcome in female spaces! Male rapists in female prisons! Males in female sports! Males in female only refuges! Let's not bother trying to keep single sex spaces, it's only women anyway, who cares!'

Actually, I think they do think that. They think that women are so weak and stupid that we would think like this.

JK Rowling herself, of course, rises above it all, takes it straight back to what Putin is trying to deflect from, and puts in another plug for own Ukrainian charity appeal.

334bu · 26/03/2022 10:13

Are we really going down this route of guilt by association? Do we need to start listing all the links that a lot of trans activists have to less than salubrous activities. Are all transgender people and activists to be tarred by the activities of people Gordon Pike, who helped formulate the policy which allows male prisoners into the Scottish prison female estate?
Surely nobody would be stupid enough to say that JKR is a despot like Putin or a lackey of the fundamentalist right, nor would anybody be so shallow to accuse the average trans person of behaving in less than moral ways, merely because their cause has been hijacked by evil people?

DrSbaitso · 26/03/2022 10:11

She sympathised, in four words, with Farrow for receiving misogynistic abuse. It's telling that so many activists were more ready to abuse Farrow for being a woman than for her far right views.

SantaCarlaCalifornia · 26/03/2022 10:01

Is sympathising with someone for the abuse they get online the same as being "very friendly with"? Because there's a whole load of dodginess that the TRAs are aligning themselves with if so.

Teemtime · 26/03/2022 09:57

@SparklingConsequences

It's strange to claim that there's not some concern about money going into newly formed anti-trans orgs, when they're boasting about having spent £2 million on spurious court cases and people like Kate Scotow have explicitly stated that they have been approached by religious right orgs to take over their cases (to her credit she stated she told them where to go).

ADF and the like have been funding anti-LGBT and anti-women legislation for many years. Some actual feminists such as Jean Hachet have been warning about sitting with the religious right for years

Also JKR and other feminists being very friendly with anti-gay marriage/anti-abortion campaigner Caroline Farrow, a director of CitizenGo

From Wikipedia
CitizenGO is an ultra-conservative advocacy group founded in Madrid, Spain, in 2013 by the ultra-Catholic and far-right HazteOir organization

which also has been funded by Russian money.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/03/2022 09:40

All the usual suspects on Twitter practically having a collective orgasm.

They are utterly ridiculous, as are some of the posts on this thread.

Felton seems to have fixed his anti-Rowling tweets so that only people he follows or mentions can reply. His other tweets aren't fixed that way.

Yes, he likes doing that, because he's a slimy little coward.

DrSbaitso · 26/03/2022 09:33

Ian Dunt right on the money, as usual. Thank you, Ian.

JKR being burned again thanks to Putin
WeeBisom · 26/03/2022 09:32

Feminists have always been accused of aligning with the right wing. In the 70s and 80s Andrea Dworkin and Catherine mackinnon endured a lot of criticism from the political left because of their opposition to pornography. Because the right wing didn’t like porn very much, these radical feminists were said to be allies of conservatives.

The problem with this argument is the motivations of the two groups are completely different. The American right wanted to ban pornography because it was immoral, because it went against their religion, because it led men astray. The rad fems wanted to ban porn not to uphold some patriarchal standard of femininity, but because it was harmful to women.

Feminism sometimes aligns with right or left ideology but for entirely different reasons. In this case , Putin doesn’t like gender or trans rights because it threatens his patriarchal, male dominated view of society. It is destabilising and corrupting, in his eyes. But rad fems dislike gender ideology because it harms women- because it undermines women’s rights and causes harm to women and girls (such as women losing in sports to males, rape victims having to attend group therapy with males etc).

DomesticatedZombie · 26/03/2022 09:27

@BootsAndRoots

I'm still at a loss at how Putin's plan of distracting Twitter users is going to help his invasion?

Twitter is banned in Russia, and I'm pretty sure the Ukrainian army isn't looking at Twitter on the battlefield.

Sow dissent, weaken the west. Fairly standard tactics.
ChopinBoard · 26/03/2022 09:12

I visit this board most days and I'm often reminded of this scene from what What We Do In The Shadows.

Energy vampire on social media

terryleather · 26/03/2022 08:57

we're working class and right now transactivism is a niche middle-class status issue which is why certain sillier sectors of the political classes have been captured.

And academia, the media, etc etc etc anywhere middle/upper class people gather and run things - and that's pretty much everything, hence we are where we are.

DrSbaitso · 26/03/2022 08:52

Felton seems to have fixed his anti-Rowling tweets so that only people he follows or mentions can reply. His other tweets aren't fixed that way.

What are you scared of, Jim? Two years of death and rape threats, misandristic abuse and people gathering outside your family home to intimidate you?

Slothtoes · 26/03/2022 08:48

Some brilliant posts on here thank you. lifeturnsonadime also nailed it with Just another example of blaming women for the actions of men.
JKR is more than clever enough to navigate this latest assault on her integrity.

DrSbaitso · 26/03/2022 08:38

I've unfollowed Felton. A shame, because he is funny, but this is no joke. Glad I never bought any of his books.

And Rowling is funnier anyway.

MummBRaaarrrTheEverLeaking · 26/03/2022 08:26

@Quaggars

We're all endorsed by Putin now are we?

I don't think anyone has said that to be fair

Ah but I thought that's how it goes isn't it? That's why all those nasty wimmins can be waved away and dismissed as right wing, because some right wing people happen to agree on this particular subject, so we must agree on everything else they do right Hmm When in reality a lot of us are more left leaning, but it's nasty women whose views we don't like, so don't let that get in the way of a good smearing.

It won't take anything for the Twitter witch hunt massive to go look everyone, JKR is endorsed by Putin, therefore anyone with the same views as her is the same too.

Nope, doesn't matter she's donating to and stands by Ukraine, TRA twitter will milk this for all it's worth. That tweet by shitweasel Felton, for example. "Endorsed", in black and white. Don't pretend it won't be inferred.

Theeyeballsinthefuckingsky · 26/03/2022 08:03

Quite Bellini - see this cuntery for example

twitter.com/poiitics4all/status/1507396100054994947?s=21&t=OQ3S7hn11E_uFXKFSY8x8A

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bellinisurge · 26/03/2022 07:43

Never trust vegetarians. Hitler was a vegetarian.

That's the level of thinking some of these idiots are working at.

littlbrowndog · 26/03/2022 07:39

@Alltheprettyseahorses

I'd best point out it was all twitter activists that went after me and my client, no one I know irl has any time for this, we're working class and right now transactivism is a niche middle-class status issue which is why certain sillier sectors of the political classes have been captured.
So agree.
Alltheprettyseahorses · 26/03/2022 07:33

I'd best point out it was all twitter activists that went after me and my client, no one I know irl has any time for this, we're working class and right now transactivism is a niche middle-class status issue which is why certain sillier sectors of the political classes have been captured.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 26/03/2022 07:29

Male rapists are in women's prisons, women have been murdered and beaten, women's meetings have been attacked by angry mobs, women are getting death and rape threats, women are losing their jobs. 2 major violent incidents against women in the last few days in Manchester. I'm a carer and not only have transactivists gone after someone with the same name as me to try to get her sacked on several different occasions they have even gone after one of my clients. I suppose it's a get-out clause: 'I didn't do it Miss, it was that big boy Putin.'

DrSbaitso · 26/03/2022 06:57

Hitler: I know what a Jew is. I'll gas them.

Oskar Schindler: I know what a Jew is. I'll save 1200 of them.

Barmy army: YOU AGREE WITH HITLER! YOU ARE LIKE HIM! By the way, what's a Jew?

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