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JKR being burned again thanks to Putin

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Theeyeballsinthefuckingsky · 25/03/2022 14:45

Twitter is awash with blue ticks doing lots of “JKR is on a level with putin” and sky news have helpfully Hmm amplified it

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PurgatoryOfPotholes · 26/03/2022 11:11

Well, Owen Jones and all his Novara media buddies attended a destination wedding in Malta, the state with the strictest legislation against abortion in the EU.

So he's anti-abortion then. Certainly didn't see him saying he could not risk funding the tourism industry of such a place.

wigwam87 · 26/03/2022 11:11

What is your definition of 'far right'? They seem to be a Christian group. Are Christians all far right now?

Go to the citizengo wiki page and you'll find out about them and the HazteOir organization.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CitizenGo

Lots of information available with credible citations, you'll need google translate though Smile

OldCrone · 26/03/2022 11:00

@IdRatherJack

People are entitled to be friends with whoever they like, Caroline Farrow is however a Citizen Go director, a far right organisation which has recevied Russian funding and is therefore relevant to what is being discussed on this thread.
What is your definition of 'far right'? They seem to be a Christian group. Are Christians all far right now?

www.citizengo.org/en/ideology-citizengo-foundation

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/03/2022 10:51

Owen Jones interviewed that incel creep Vaush. Is he aligned to all of Vaush's views? Go and suggest that he is on his timeline, he might threaten to sue you for libel, because he's allowed to do that, even though JK Rowling isn't.

Hasselhoffsheadband · 26/03/2022 10:50

I don't think OJ realised how it looks to normal people when he calls feminists 'natural allies of Putin' because they don't believe humans can change sex and they want to uphold single sex spaces.

Kind of wild!!!

JKR being burned again thanks to Putin
JKR being burned again thanks to Putin
Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/03/2022 10:49

Interesting that he attributes more sincerity to Putin, currently waging war in Ukraine, than he does to Rowling, who wrote an entire essay explaining she didn't hate trans people

It really is. And I will take a guess at what that word is DomesticatedZombie!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/03/2022 10:48

This is all extremely childish.

DomesticatedZombie · 26/03/2022 10:47

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

Interesting that he attributes more sincerity to Putin, currently waging war in Ukraine, than he does to Rowling, who wrote an entire essay explaining she didn't hate trans people.
Because Putin has a пенис innit
Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/03/2022 10:47

Caroline Farrow is one person with some gender critical views. She is very religious and active for causes many of us do not agree with. She is not the linchpin of an organised TERF movement.

Abhannmor · 26/03/2022 10:47

@OldCrone

Also JKR and other feminists being very friendly with anti-gay marriage/anti-abortion campaigner Caroline Farrow, a director of CitizenGo

"I saw you talking to Caroline once. She's a Tory and a Catholic. So you must be an anti-abortionist bigot."

Grow up.

Yeah. You don't like Catholics do you ? I expect you are in the Orange Order. You support people who push petrol soaked rags through people's letterboxes because they are the wrong type of Christian. And so on absurdly.
ScreamingMeMe · 26/03/2022 10:47

@IdRatherJack

People are entitled to be friends with whoever they like, Caroline Farrow is however a Citizen Go director, a far right organisation which has recevied Russian funding and is therefore relevant to what is being discussed on this thread.
How? You need to prove a link from CitizenGo to JK Rowling/other GC feminists, otherwise all you're doing os guilt by association.
Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/03/2022 10:45

Owen Jones currently on Twitter completely ignoring the fact that Putin and Russia has form for meddling in online stuff to influence and stoke division, and claiming that Putin rolled out one of the most divisive names in the West right now for totally sincere reasons.

What an idiot. Now I'm almost suspicious someone is paying him.

IdRatherJack · 26/03/2022 10:41

People are entitled to be friends with whoever they like, Caroline Farrow is however a Citizen Go director, a far right organisation which has recevied Russian funding and is therefore relevant to what is being discussed on this thread.

Yewtown · 26/03/2022 10:41

@Hasselhoffsheadband

Isn't what Putin has done here just an extension of the Russian troll farms? Russia have their eye on everything in the West, including the hottest social topics and the ones that cause the most division. They then deploy stuff online related to those topics (eg. US Election etc)

Do People really think that Putin invoked JK Rowling because he actually sympathises with her, or gives a shit about anything she has said? Or is it because he knows that those key words 'JK Rowling' from him, would immediately cause a frenzy, which it has? And the bloody thickos have walked right into it!

Do men like Owen Jones and James Felton really think that feminists are going to think 'shit, Putin said JRK's name, I am immediately going to change my mind on all these things: puberty blockers for any child that wants them! Any male who fancies it is welcome in female spaces! Male rapists in female prisons! Males in female sports! Males in female only refuges! Let's not bother trying to keep single sex spaces, it's only women anyway, who cares!'

Actually, I think they do think that. They think that women are so weak and stupid that we would think like this.

JK Rowling herself, of course, rises above it all, takes it straight back to what Putin is trying to deflect from, and puts in another plug for own Ukrainian charity appeal.

This is it in a nutshell.
PurgatoryOfPotholes · 26/03/2022 10:40

Interesting that he attributes more sincerity to Putin, currently waging war in Ukraine, than he does to Rowling, who wrote an entire essay explaining she didn't hate trans people.

Hasselhoffsheadband · 26/03/2022 10:36

Owen Jones currently on Twitter completely ignoring the fact that Putin and Russia has form for meddling in online stuff to influence and stoke division, and claiming that Putin rolled out one of the most divisive names in the West right now for totally sincere reasons.

He really is a plonker isn't he?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/03/2022 10:33

Check.Mate.TRAs

r/selfpwn

Hasselhoffsheadband · 26/03/2022 10:31

Ceri Black is a lesbian who talks a lot about her preparations for her upcoming wedding on twitter.

So by your logic, Caroline Farrow supports gay marriage.

Ha, exactly! 🤣

RufusthefIoraImissingreindeer · 26/03/2022 10:29

@MrsTerryPratchett

Bolsonaro, Salvini, Putin, US Republican party, Tucker goddamn Carlson on Fox News, US Southern Baptists, Catholic Church. From the neo-nazi truckers in Canada to the Liberal party in Australia pretty much the whole gamut of right-wingers side with mumsnet on trans issues.

I'm fairly sure I agree with many of them all about Brussels sprouts, puppies, people who park badly, daylight saving, dinosaurs and tea.

And I don't agree with them about 'trans issues' because I believe in healthcare, employment, all sorts of lovely rights. They don't.

It's such a load of old ad hominem bollocks. What we need to do is agree the basics of what we ALL agree with and work from there. Rather than finding all the places we disagree and fighting.

For example the truckers in Canada believe in freedom, looking at overreach in government and forced medical procedures. Good. So do I. Now how do we look at that sensibly and without being a twatbadger?

What happened to a non-partisan, collaborative approach?

This

Like many others I didn't pick a side, TRAs pushed me off the sodding fence I was quite happy on

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 26/03/2022 10:27

@bellinisurge

Never trust vegetarians. Hitler was a vegetarian.

That's the level of thinking some of these idiots are working at.

👏🏼 That's the level of intelligence some people are showing for sure
ScreamingMeMe · 26/03/2022 10:27

It's strange to claim that there's not some concern about money going into newly formed anti-trans orgs, when they're boasting about having spent £2 million on spurious court cases

What "anti trans orgs"? What court cases? What boasting? And what has any of that got to do with JK Rowling and the rest of us?

Kate Scottow turned down money and you're using that as proof of...what, exactly? Grin

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/03/2022 10:26

So by your logic, Caroline Farrow supports gay marriage.

Indeed!

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 26/03/2022 10:25

@KlariceKliff

Ceri Black (*@FemmeLoves* on Twitter) is on record as saying CF is her friend and defending her.

CF is very much in their clique.

Ceri Black is a lesbian who talks a lot about her preparations for her upcoming wedding on twitter.

So by your logic, Caroline Farrow supports gay marriage.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/03/2022 10:25

Caroline Farrow bought me a glass of wine at an event once, I knew who she was, I agree with her on this issue but not on many others. I said thank you, and the world carried on turning. I am pro choice and an agnostic atheist. I have not changed my mind on the things I disagree with her on, I just agree with her on the fundamental existential points of this one.

People cannot change sex. Women are female. Water is wet, up is not down. We might differ on details but there it is.

Hasselhoffsheadband · 26/03/2022 10:22

@KlariceKliff

Ceri Black (*@FemmeLoves* on Twitter) is on record as saying CF is her friend and defending her.

CF is very much in their clique.

Oh my GOD! Imagine having a FRIEND with whom you don't agree on everything!

I have a friend who is religious, and very anti-abortion. Are we not allowed to be friends anymore?

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