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Small event...need to vent

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Monitaurus · 25/03/2022 02:04

This evening I went to an event in a library where there was to be a discussion about LGBT ++ books, apparently as part of International Women’s Day. I dug out a few of my old lesbian books , thinking I could donate them. When I arrived I asked if my books could be displayed alongside any others that might be offered. This was rejected. The speakers turned out to be from the LGBTI collective, no visible women or lesbians . Then a man with coloured hair, and a male who identified himself as trans and a teacher explained that books were important to give young people and children role models etc. Some of the books were described, and apart from the fact that there were many on the subject of trans, there were about 2 about lesbians. I did wonder whether the one about a trans prostitute in Argentina was suitable material for use in schools. The speakers then talked about their lives, and sure enough it was all about the T. How that TW are just like cis women, like black women etc. By this time I was seething as lesbians had more or less disappeared. Eventually I got the mike and explained there had been lesbian culture in the past and how it had been destroyed over time by Trans ideology and actions. This was not popular and there was a tussle with the mike as the teacher aggressively tried to prevent me from saying any more by accusing me of believing all TW should not be in changing rooms and so on. Which is true, but I hadn’t said it. So this person did all the work and told me I had n right to say “she “wasn’t a woman, in a very male aggressive way..QED
I managed to say a bit about how young lesbians and girls are being harmed and how it would be great if afghan girls could identify out of their oppression. Two gay guys then took the mike off me and having received no support from any of the women there including the women’s officer, who reassured the men that all feminists are not like me! I know the woman and was surprised that she took this line which was the last straw so I left. With my books.
I wish I had not been so angry outwardly but the absolute nonsense in the room was just too much. Anyway just needed to talk about it but glad that maybe something alternative was heard.

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lovelyweathertoday · 25/03/2022 06:32

Wow! Well done! It's ridiculous that this is the current situation, but no-one there can pretend that everyone agrees with them. They can't pretend that there's no conflict of rights.

It's such a shame that they couldn't show some kindness towards lesbians. Why doesn't the kindness extend to women with opinions?

RhubarbCrumbled · 25/03/2022 06:29

Please complain about this to the head of your library service especially about the aggressiveness of the speaker. It's not a small thing, it's huge. If it was seen to be successful then it will be run again and again.

I'm not sure how much you'd want to, but often libraries are available for the public to run their own reading related events - maybe a lesbian author visit or LGBA event? Counter their bullshit!

Norma27 · 25/03/2022 06:25

That is appalling. But huge respect to you standing your ground and speaking up. Big hugs

WalrusSubmarine · 25/03/2022 04:30

Sorry this happened to you. The lesbian erasure is so awful at the moment (but I note they are very keen to keep the L in there to keep the public onside and those donations coming in Hmm). I hope you can complain to someone as the LGBT umbrella is supposed to be about more than t.

I do think more normal people are getting frustrated with this - we’ve spent years happily backing and campaigning for same sex marriage, workplace rights and anti discrimination policies but suddenly, what we’ve actually got, is the end of single sex categories and lesbians and gay men getting sidelined - a very different outcome. We are feeling a little hoodwinked.

Apollo441 · 25/03/2022 03:07

Jeez. I'm sorry. Glad you stood up to them. Really things are changing and like you, people aren't putting up with this bollocks any more. Respect and hugs.

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