Girls banned from attending school

These poor girls. Things like this is why I rage when some idiot gaily chats about 'cis' and that it means you ..... identify and embrace the shit of your oppression willingly, apparently, because you haven't chosen to just pick a more powerful label.

No. No one in that country with any power cares about those girls' identity, or feelings, or needs, or voices, or even their basic safety. And gosh does that have a lot in common with the attitude the women of the UK so constantly encounter from the political TQ+ lobby, who don't care either about voices, needs, equality, rapes, being attacked....

You can split the ones with the power to force and ignore, and the ones with no power who are constantly the ones sucking up the harms, by one easy factor. And it's biology. And the powerless ones can't identify out of the grimness of their situation, but the powerful ones get to play as they like. And it does not matter about country or continent it is the same .

Pretending otherwise is to say you know exactly what sex is and which one you are on the side of oppressing.

I'm.puzzled by the lack.of ability of these men to see the bigger picture. So desperate are they to control women and girls like right now they haven't even thought ahead. when the death rates of women and girls increase and the men outnumber the women. Just who are they going to marry/have kids with? You'd think they'd think of that if nothing else.

Apart from men's ability to slaughter each other, its easier for them to up sticks and leave.

Think of these poor girls when you next see a wretched Labour MP squirming and flailing whilst struggling to define a woman.

Yes. This has been something I have worried about ever since the Taliban took over. It will be carnage. Younger and younger girls being married off, no contraception, no care. Maternal and neonatal mortality will rocket. It is horrific

I'm.puzzled by the lack.of ability of these men to see the bigger picture. So desperate are they to control women and girls like right now they haven't even thought ahead. when the death rates of women and girls increase and the men outnumber the women. Just who are they going to marry/have kids with? You'd think they'd think of that if nothing else.

For people who think they have all the power they are awfully scared of girls learning to read.

2022? Under the Taliban it might as well be the year 1022. Those poor people, those poor women and girls - they will have no chance at any kind of decent life. It’s tragic.

Just devastating for them

But no surprise

In fact, no medical care for females at all.

Can't they just identify out of it and announce that they're boys?

Oh, wait...

The oppression of women is based on biological sex.

This thread should be somewhere on the main boards. Not sure where, but everyone should be talking about this.

I am so horrified by this. While the eyes of the world are understandably on Ukraine I hope we haven’t forgotten Afghanistan.

Is there anything we can do? I gave to charity for Afghanistan at the same time I gave for Ukraine. But what else is there I should be doing?

Those poor girls what an utterly cruel trick, letting them.get up get ready and go only to send them home again.

Anyone else feel so helpless at the relentless, infinite-seeming mountain of hateful misogyny around the world?
Those poor girls.

Awful. Is there anything we can do?

I feel like this should be in the feminist chat , right?

But this is sickening news.

If they keep the girls uneducated they can control them - give them to men to do what they want. It's pure horror.
What can be done?

I read today that this means no female doctors and midwives will be trained, yet a woman can't have a man attend her at birth , so women will get to a stage where there is no medical help for them giving birth. This is barbaric, if true.

Does anyone know if the practice of allowing one girl in a family without boys to pretend to be a boy and be educated until puberty still happens? Perhaps this has been stopped in the last few years but certainly in the past this did happen and led to a generation of women’s rights activists. Appalled still at the cruelty of the world towards those female people.

Those poor girls, turning up to school so excited, then having their hopes and dreams dashed.

Heartbreaking

It's heartbreaking and criminal. The US must have known that it would be women and girls feeling the most impact of them leaving Afghanistan; they're just collateral damage.

It’s heartbreaking.

But I never understand the ‘it’s 2022’ remarks.

Why does anyone presume that the human race is on some sort of upward trajectory?

What will become of those girls. This was so depressingly predictable from the news of the withdrawal.
The UN and aid agencies have added to this geopolitical mess to create a permissive culture for these harms.

I read the BBC coverage just after it was published & it seems remarkable (but wonderful) that there has been a rise in female primary school attendance since the Taliban takeover as security improved.

UNICEF keep saying gender when they mean sex, which is frankly an affront to the 129 million girls of school age who aren’t in education & the 1 in 3 girls from the poorest households who have never been to school. Female genital mutilation, child marriage, experiencing violence because you have a female body - none of those things are related to gender; & none of those things could be identified out of. The World Bank* use gender too, but their stuff is still worth reading.

Sustainable Development Goal** 4 feels a long way out of reach, frankly - especially having failed to achieve MDG 2 Mind you, the UN use gender not sex, so some SDGs (notably 5) are rendered meaningless & the fact sheets frankly insulting.

The first two points on the UN SDG 5 “facts & figures” sheets are:
• Globally, 750 million women and girls were married before the age of 18 and at least 200 million women and girls in 30 countries have undergone FGM.
• The rates of girls between 15-19 who are subjected to FGM (female genital mutilation) in the 30 countries where the practice is concentrated have dropped from 1 in 2 girls in 2000 to 1 in 3 girls by 2017.
These things happen to girls & women because of their sex. Gender has no place in this discourse - it is now actively harmful not simply unhelpful; & it needs to stop.

*whose research turned up the info on primary school attendance in Afghanistan
** UN Millennium Development Goals
UN Sustainable Development Goals