Boris has nailed colours to mast

I just don't understand why Labour and other parties can't see that they need to protect womens rights and not allow any Tom, DICK or Harry self-identify as a woman & invade womens safe spaces/ sports etc

Its so obvious that it does that I think the truth must be that they do realise but just don't care. Or at least they don't care enough to risk being called names. They care more about their 'progressive' identity than about vulnerable women. Its self interest basically.

And Labour abandoned any sort of class analysis a long time ago, let alone not having a feminist one, so they aren't doing a class based feminist analysis on who is most losing out by this gender ideology.

So they just don't care.

I did contact my local MP - a shadow minister. He just came back with bullshit.

Maybe all the people here despairing that voters are choosing to vote Tory instead of Labour, or not even vote at all - maybe you should try contacting the Labour Party and let them know that their strategy of identity politics isn't working?

They haven't listened to GC voices, maybe they'd listen to purer ones.

Excellent post @FireFlyBoogaloo

It's hilarious on these threads how often 'we' and 'us' are used as if women only vote labour.

Lots of women voted Tory long before the labour party got overun by its gender identity politics feelings over facts stance.

You can post Tory hating bile here confident in your opinion they are The Baddies.

But remember lots of people who are TWAW now think that about you, they're just as confident you are The Baddie.

If this doesn't give people pause in their utter conviction in Baddies and Goodies in politics I'm not sure anything could.

"I do not think for one moment that the tory party (Patel anyone?) give a furry fuck about women's rights, or any kind of equality. If people fall for that, then so be it."

Neither do I. But I know for certain that Labour don't either so that's on them to put forward a platform that makes them electable. On this, Starmer is just Corbyn with a smarter suit.

I think Labour are beginning to listen. I received this reply from my local Labour mp who said Labour will be upholding single-sex exemptions.

And despite you trying to smear MNers are all rich, you only need to look at any of the many threads from people here who are really financially struggling to know that that is not true.

Gah, I hate Boris soooo much but now have to feel grateful for these scraps. And I am.

I am glad to hear the PM say this. Echoes of Robert Winstone?

No way on Earth would I would vote Tory with that lying, corrupt charalatan still in charge though.

I just don't understand why Labour and other parties can't see that they need to protect womens rights and not allow any Tom, DICK or Harry self-identify as a woman & invade womens safe spaces/ sports etc.

@FireFlyBoogaloo

Yes I recognise that behaviour. I am afraid I used to do it. I've grown up a bit since then, but am still learning.

Before the last General Election, a Labour canvasser promised me that our MP had very strong beliefs on single-sex spaces and I could trust her, but she recently backed Keir Starmer's words on women/cervixes so... no, actually I can't. If a principled Conservative candidate stood in my constituency I'd not hesitate to vote for them. I'm just looking for a candidate with principles at this stage.

The way that GC people are spoken to and about by TRAs is nothing new to those women because they have been spoken to and about in that way by left-wingers who consider themselves moral betters since time immemorial. They have been told that they are selfishly voting in their own interest and not considering those who are in a different position, and in the next breath that they are stupidly voting against their own interest on another issue, which is also bad. The only common denominator is that the leftist believes herself morally, superior, and believes anyone who disagrees on any topic to be a very bad person. Which ought to be a familiar position to come here, based on the events of recent years.

I'm an "out" centrist with some views that lean left and some that lean right. I'm also too old and too disagreeable to care much about what others think about my opinions. A lot of people would be surprised at how many (cowardly, in my view, but not my circus) people will quietly, privately admit that they don't agree with prevailing narratives—and not merely on the gender issue.

Fortunately, the voting booth is the most private of places.

I think in reality most UK citizens are closer to central than far left or right.
Labour will hopefully find this to their cost. Just hope conservatives have the sense to adapt.

Of all the issues I’m happy to put this above all others

The fact the labour party are going along with this batshit absurd gender ideology isn't just some weird freak occurrence, outside all their other thinking.

It's the clearest and most extreme example of the identity politics that has consumed the left.

The idea that your identity feelings and lived experience trump facts and that everything is a power struggle between identity groups is pervasive, and central to leftist thinking.

That's why they're having such a hard time with this. It fits their over arching ideology but has taken it to an extreme position which exposes them.

It makes me laugh everyone who thinks leftist identity politics is still great except on this issue.
This is where it leads.

The labour party's position on gender ideology is consistent with their current politics.

It's a feature not a bug.

It is quite terrifying that I agree with something our idiot PM says.

Another 'rightwingantiabortionreganfundednunrichwhiteoldsaggytitted' smearing attempt in desperation that no one listen to women. Stopped working years ago.

I wrote to my labour mp a year or so ago. Never got a reply.

I'd be very wary of writing again. Of labour get in how long would it be before they pinned my concerns for a hate crime?
I don't have any money or power to protect me from that. Thankfully voting is anonymous.

I voted Labour 40+ years, up to and including 2019. I've leafleted, knocked on doors, frozen my arse off at polling stations and had dogs set on me. So spare me your finger wagging. Take it up with your craven, spineless, brain coddled party.

So much anger directed at women here, who are stating their frustration and anger when faced with perhaps their best fit political party betraying them over their defence of biological reality, women rights, children's safeguarding, privacy, dignity, sporting achievement etc.

Perhaps rather than attacking those of us considering using the remaining power we have left, by voting (or not) in a particular way, it would be better to direct that anger at the Labour politicians who are lying, lacking any integrity, and some even attacking women for their views, making us politically homeless.