Trans cyclist will be allowed in Commonwealth Games

I'm at the point now where I want loads of trans identifying men to compete in women's sports, then the world will soon see the absurdity of three biological males on the podiums at every women's sporting event. Perhaps questions will then be asked about what dedicated sports women are supposed to do to achieve success in their sport, and maybe give them their own category!!

To paraphrase Greta ‘HOW DARE THEY?!!!’

[Shrug] Inevitable. The number of people who really care about women's sport is so tiny. It's dispiriting that Lord Coe doesn't give a shit either.

I really rooted for Emily Bridges competing in men's (should be called open) events. There us no 'end of' about separate events for trans people, that really is exclusion and there's absolutely no reason for it, nor at the moment enough numbers. Trans people are normal human beings like anyone else. I'm with Martina Navratilova, Sharron Davies and many others in wanting an open event and a female event.

I emailed the dimwit MP who tweeted to tell people who objected to Lia Thomas winning women's swimming to 'pipe down'. I can't believe an elected representative would be so dim as to tweet that and alienate a large proportion of her electorate.

Judge Kentanji Brown was also unable to give an answer as to what would happen if Cruz decided he was a different race:

twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1506742473342676992

She dismisses this as "hypotheticals". But that's what you do when you make law, isn't it? Think about what other areas of law are impacted or amended or set aside by your changes?

As a side note, I wonder if "not getting into hypotheticals" will be the new "not going down a rabbit hole".

Just today, Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson was being interviewed for the US Supreme Court and was asked, "Can you define what is a woman?" And she said, "No. I am not a biologist."

Still - at least she knows that if an expert is required then it should be a biologist not a professor of gender studies.

www.birminghamworld.uk/news/birmingham-2022-trans-woman-cyclist-looks-to-compete-for-female-medals-at-commonwealth-games-3623069

Just today, Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson was being interviewed for the US Supreme Court and was asked, "Can you define what is a woman?" And she said, "No. I am not a biologist."

Now, I've been rooting for Justice Jackson as I think it's high time a public defender and a Black woman make it on our Supreme Court, but she's clearly pandering to this fringe element because our President Biden does as well. I don't doubt her other qualifications, but what kind of answer is that? Judges need to be able to define and classify the people they write law about. What if the question had been, "Can you define murder?" And she says, "no. I am not a criminal." It's equally as absurd.

www.politico.com/news/2022/03/22/blackburn-jackson-define-the-word-woman-00019543?_amp=true

Women are not men with lower testosterone.

I hope a whole load of men enter. Preferably most of the field. It needs to be writ large what this means.

I suspect a few of the pack leaders might like it less when they discover they have fair competition from other men.

Two work colleagues telling me about this today, they had no idea things were so bad. It's all news to them. I've just emailed them a lot more news....

I am all for inclusion. Trans people should have their own cycling, swimming and other athletic categories. End of.

"Difficult for the science to find level playing field for all"

Impossible, but that should be ok because it's not the right outcome. There are 2 sexes, humans a a sexually dimorphic species. So each sex needs one level playing field apiece. It's really not difficult. If there are people who don't feel they fit on the field appropriate to their sex, well then they need to find some other alternative rather than invading someone else's pitch.

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10643023/Commonwealth-Games-agrees-gender-rules-trans-woman-compete-female-cycling-event.html

I assume this is about Bridges. And I wonder, I just wonder if seeing just what the pushback on Thomas' inclusion in the NCAA has been will influence that cyclist's decision to compete.

I believe they are fully of the righteous view that they should be allowed, and that their mother is very righteous about this. So, maybe they are doing the fingers in the ears 'you are all haters' move.

I've never been to an elite athletic event before but I think I may enjoy watching a women's cycling event.

I applied for cycling tickets but unfortunately didn't get any. They're soooo hard to get because the velodrome holds way fewer people that the athletics and cycling is quite popular (probably because the GB team usually does well).

*We need this kind of thing to happen. Mass audiences of sports fans seeing it with their own eyes.

Terrible shame for the women who will lose out but it's a long game.*

^ this ^^

I’ve always thought there are two ways to stop a runaway band wagon. You could either throw yourself in front of it, or you wait until it picks up enough speed and it comes off the road

We need this kind of thing to happen. Mass audiences of sports fans seeing it with their own eyes.

Absolutely. Most people who aren't engaged with the debate take one look at this and decide it isn't fair. Live however you want, wear whatever clothes you want, (if an adult) use whatever hormones and surgery will make you happy. But some thing need to remain closed to you.

Well now, when we know the date we can book an a/l day.

I've never been to an elite athletic event before but I think I may enjoy watching a women's cycling event.

Lockeddoors I think you may be thinking of a different cyclist.
The potential contender here isn't overweight, mediocre or 20 years older than the women competing.
They have been competitive in junior men's racing until (very) recently and are therefore likely to do very well indeed.