Trans cyclist will be allowed in Commonwealth Games

Robert Millar was a champion male cyclist - king of the mountains. Presumably, transitioning made them more comfortable and created retirement opportunities

Looking back at cycling history. In 1984 when Robert Millar was King of the Mountains in the Tour de France, there was no consistent women's Tour (though various short versions had sometimes been run since 1955) and it would be another 5 years before both the women's Tour de France and the women's Giro d'Italia came into being. They were of course dogged with funding crises and sexist comments throughout. This was about the time I started competing in my own sport.

The absolute insult of this grabbing of women's opportunities and this apparent belief that what would make women's sport really good and worthwhile is more males in it.

Pippa York competed as Robert Miller and had a very successful cycling career, including being king of the mountains in the Tour de France.

[quote SweatyChamoisPad]@DERFDogmaExlusionary doubt it. BH has done a lot for women’s cycling as a race organiser. He also has no vote on the board or national council since BC were forced to split president and chair roles by UK Sport. He now has a figurehead position (which he does a great job at) but very little power where it matters. I suspect several of the board wouldn’t be happy with the way things are going, but feel they are stuck on this runaway trans gravy train that has no brakes. In the main I think it was driven by Pippa York and a couple of wannabe woke members of the comms team at the time, driven in turn by pro trans media like Ned Boulting and the like. RF didn’t leave of his own volition - there are a few people whose faces no longer fit with the new CEO who is from Rugby, and apparently he’s bringing all his mates in.[/quote]
Thanks @SweatyChamoisPad

The politics make my mind spin. So board members don't like it and the director who was to field questions about trans inclusion has left British cycling? it doesn't sound like they're happy!

It's mind boggling that this decision has happened.

Though the £1million per Olympic win ch ching money talks could be a big reason as PPs have said.

Off to look up who Pippa York is

It doesn't make sense to anyone @AgathaOvercome - probably because it is totally nonsensical!

Just saw this and that guidelines say testosterone must be

Lolz. The Times had moved the story about EB v Dame Laura Kenny to their front page from the sports page .

Glorious, glorious sunlight. Let it shine in.

So we will end up having ‘normal’ sports (ie mens footie) PLUS what was the ‘ladies league’ cakes something like the ‘all genders league’? It’s the loos problem all over again!

51% of the population….

Sadly we need this - the more confident the TRAs become, the quicker they will go too far.

In Australia they have announced the first Trans Rugby Player - pray a woman isn't seriously injured before this stops.

It's almost worse if the intention is to strategically not win particular races, maybe to "prove" no advantage.
That would be a very cynical use of a place on the team / in the race.

How very male and entitled he is to race in two categories swapping to the women's to taken women's medals. It takes a particular type of man to know in his very bones, that developed through male puberty, that he has no qualms competing against women.

Imagine he will be feeling excited in the run up, gets the boost of lining up against women and feels no guilt in being in the wrong sex category.

She dismisses this as "hypotheticals". But that's what you do when you make law, isn't it? Think about what other areas of law are impacted or amended or set aside by your changes?

This is a very important point. If you go back to the original House of Lords discussions in Hansard about the 2004 Gender Recognition Bill, a number of peers make the point that men will be identify as female and take part in women's sport. It probably seemed far-fetched at the time. But here we are.

I know what the solution is to make it fair!

Give all females male puberty hormones aged 12-18.

Then they can compete with transgender athletes on a more even playing field.

Win win

Someone on the Times comments has asked if the mods are on an tea break!

Betting this cheat will throw the race. He should race against Veronica Ivy or whatever that one is calling himself these days. Probably in better shape.

We've got tickets for the UCI track event at the velodrome in Glasgow next month. Bought through British Cycling. They're getting an email, and i'm going to ask my DH to cancel his membership, unfortunately just renewed in January.

How best to make a protest? An Adult Human Female t-shirt?

The consultation is mentioned in the board meeting in December - www.britishcycling.org.uk/zuvvi/media/bc_files/corporate/boardminutes/WEBSITE_BCF_Board_-Minutes-8.12.21-_v1.pdf

Re medal potential it's interesting to note that an Olympic medal win is worth around a million quid of UKS funding. So regardless of what the board, management, staff, riders think - a win is a win, and a win is money.

Yeah. I didn’t think they published it. That would take ultimate transparency. Something World Rugby set a very high standard for.

I suspect Cycling are eyeing off medal potential.

Did BC actually publish the submissions and papers that formed their ‘consultation’? Like World Rugby did?

No they didn't. What a surprise.

[quote DERFDogmaExlusionary]Was it Bob Howden who decided to remove the women's category and replace it with mixed sex?
www.britishcycling.org.uk/about/article/20180202-about-bc-static-British-Cycling-President-0?c=EN[/quote]
I don't think so. I think he has been one of the good guys. My knowledge is a bit ot of date though. Sounds like @SweatyChamoisPad is mor eup to date

I may have added a few comments of my own. Nice to see they are not currently moderating them. Wonder how long that will last?

RF is still on Companies House as a Director. If he had left the organisation, he should be taken off there shortly

Sorry, I just read eye’s post. Cross post.

@DERFDogmaExlusionary doubt it. BH has done a lot for women’s cycling as a race organiser. He also has no vote on the board or national council since BC were forced to split president and chair roles by UK Sport. He now has a figurehead position (which he does a great job at) but very little power where it matters. I suspect several of the board wouldn’t be happy with the way things are going, but feel they are stuck on this runaway trans gravy train that has no brakes. In the main I think it was driven by Pippa York and a couple of wannabe woke members of the comms team at the time, driven in turn by pro trans media like Ned Boulting and the like. RF didn’t leave of his own volition - there are a few people whose faces no longer fit with the new CEO who is from Rugby, and apparently he’s bringing all his mates in.

Did BC actually publish the submissions and papers that formed their ‘consultation’? Like World Rugby did?

I suspect that races won’t be won unless they are strategic to getting into teams. Lessons will have been learned along the way. The strategy now will be a solid placing but then at prestigious events, the effort will be at maximum.