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flyingbuttress43 · 2022-03-23T10:54:12+00:00

[[www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2022/03/22/exclusive-commonwealth-games-2022-allow-trans-women-cyclists/]] The Daily Telegraph exclusive reports today that Commonwealth Games chiefs have agreed on new gender rules, which could pave the way for a trans woman to race for a female cycling medal. The DT understands a potential contender, who previously competed in male categories is in serious contention to be picked. The cyclist has yet to formally confirm they want to compete in Birmingham. The DT is now in full campaign mode re the trans in sport issue. The sports section today has the following double page spread [[www.telegraph.co.uk/athletics/2022/03/22/sport-must-face-reality-fairness-inclusion-cannot-co-exist/]] Ross Tucker [[www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/2022/03/22/transgender-athletes-womens-competition-sport-by-sport-guide/]] By Ben Rumsby - Sports investigataions reporter [[www.telegraph.co.uk/swimming/2022/03/21/terror-labelled-transphobic-now-tops-inclination-protect-womens/]] Oliver Brown Chief Sports Correspondent Plus an article "Difficult for the science to find level playing field for all" Tom Cary Senior sports corresondent (no online link) In the main paper [[www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2022/03/22/every-win-lia-thomas-loss-women-sport/]] Allison Pearson + Banner head on main paper "Trans sport insanity"

Enough4me · 30/03/2022 13:37

Marine who is 6ft tall and doing well for Kent, but it's all good, nothing to see here.

viques · 30/03/2022 13:26

@Enough4me

Unfortunately yes I think wider social action would be safer than individuals taking a stand.

I was talking to someone this morning, someone who loves most sport and is an avid follower of cricket, she was furious that the GB womens cricket team are getting so little coverage here despite the fact that they are in the semifinal of the world cup . I was talking about EB and she had never heard of them. There is still a lot of work to be done to raise awareness.

(She was also unaware of Maxine Blythin, which really surprised me, but then, my friend is Australian!)

Enough4me · 30/03/2022 13:11

Unfortunately yes I think wider social action would be safer than individuals taking a stand.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 30/03/2022 13:05

@Enough4me

This may be a long game, it may take a man to clearly and publicly win in a women's race for the wider public to see what is going on. The public at these events should get up and walk out as the competitors cannot do anything or face harassment and loss of funding.

So, it's up to people who have spent a lot of money to attend to walk out when they're motivated not to?

Does anybody below the board level of any sporting organisation have power here?

Why is this juggernaut so unstoppable if it's a handful of people who aren't accountable to the public for their decisions.

viques · 30/03/2022 13:03

@EmbarrassingHadrosaurus

I do hope he has the balls to speak up, not just to support his wife, but to support all the other women on the UK Cycling circuits.

It would be financially ruinous for the Kennys to go against British Cycling who are fully supportive of Bridges.

Look what happened to the coaching career of Sharron Davies' father when he spoke up about doping and unfairness.

I hope things have moved on a bit since then, social media, whatever we think of it, means that bullying such as Sharron’s dad experienced is harder to hide. The Kenny’s have a lot of support both inside and outside the cycling world, and the Thomas fiasco is still high on the agenda, but I take your point, which makes the whole situation even more disgraceful, that standing up for what is fair has to be nuanced against putting your livelihood at risk.

Enough4me · 30/03/2022 13:01

This may be a long game, it may take a man to clearly and publicly win in a women's race for the wider public to see what is going on. The public at these events should get up and walk out as the competitors cannot do anything or face harassment and loss of funding.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 30/03/2022 12:51

I do hope he has the balls to speak up, not just to support his wife, but to support all the other women on the UK Cycling circuits.

It would be financially ruinous for the Kennys to go against British Cycling who are fully supportive of Bridges.

Look what happened to the coaching career of Sharron Davies' father when he spoke up about doping and unfairness.

viques · 30/03/2022 12:47

@Signalbox

There was some speculation in the meeting about whether it would be politically unwise to break Kenny's record at the upcoming event although it's well within Bridges' capacity to do so…

The fact that Laura Kenny is still currently competing is definitely a problem for EB. Laura is a national hero and loved by the British public so the optics of EB beating her would be appalling.

Laura Kenny’s husband, Jason, is now a coach for the Sprint Cycling teams. I do hope he has the balls to speak up, not just to support his wife, but to support all the other women on the UK Cycling circuits. Our female cyclists have been amazing athletes and role models for a good few years now, it would be a national disgrace if we allowed all that hard work to be ignored and dismissed to pander to a cheat.

Two years to Paris, if this nonsense isn’t stopped now then how many more failing male athletes will be encouraged to swallow the hormonal kool aid and wreck women’s sport for all time.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 30/03/2022 12:38

@KittenKong

There was a news story yesterday where a young woman died after receiving an injury playing rugby.

There was little detail and NO suggestion that there was anyone on the pitch who had a physical advantage.

Sports can be dangerous - even cycling has fatalities. Why on earth put one group at a severe disadvantage (muscle and size - let alone heart and lungs) - a group that is separate from the ‘default’ (ie men) for safety (and dignity) reasons.

Was that Bristol Uni? I thought I'd read that she'd developed an infection in hospital but I can't see that detail now so I don't know if I'm wrong or if it's been withdrawn ahead of any enquiries.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-60905063

Signalbox · 30/03/2022 12:31

There was some speculation in the meeting about whether it would be politically unwise to break Kenny's record at the upcoming event although it's well within Bridges' capacity to do so…

The fact that Laura Kenny is still currently competing is definitely a problem for EB. Laura is a national hero and loved by the British public so the optics of EB beating her would be appalling.

Appalonia · 30/03/2022 12:23

If this goes ahead, we need to stage a protest in Birmingham, who's up for it?

KittenKong · 30/03/2022 08:38

There was a news story yesterday where a young woman died after receiving an injury playing rugby.

There was little detail and NO suggestion that there was anyone on the pitch who had a physical advantage.

Sports can be dangerous - even cycling has fatalities. Why on earth put one group at a severe disadvantage (muscle and size - let alone heart and lungs) - a group that is separate from the ‘default’ (ie men) for safety (and dignity) reasons.

FemaleAndLearning · 29/03/2022 22:17

Well that pisses me off even more, what age is the youth category also racing that day? I think Bridges is in the under 23s. They have a safeguarding person.www.britishcycling.org.uk/events/details/254406/National-Omnium-Championships--Derby-GP--Velospeed-Coaching

Trans cyclist will be allowed in Commonwealth Games

CatsOperatingInGangs · 29/03/2022 21:40

I believe Rachel McKinnon used the female changing rooms when RM competes at the Master competition in Manchester 2019

Feralgoose · 29/03/2022 21:22

@FemaleAndLearning

Will Bridges use the female changing rooms like Thomas did? Do British Cycling have a policy on this?

The old transgender policy said trans people could choose the changing room they wanted to use - nothing about what anyone else in there might think. They've removed it in the latest policy, it says nothing about changing rooms.

CatsOperatingInGangs · 29/03/2022 21:19

They do have a policy on changing rooms. 5 years ago the policy stated that changing rooms had to be single sex. Now, post training by Gendered Intelligence that section has been removed.

FemaleAndLearning · 29/03/2022 21:14

Will Bridges use the female changing rooms like Thomas did? Do British Cycling have a policy on this?

Ruinedwalks · 29/03/2022 20:42

I’m feeling really sorry for the other girls getting stuck in the middle of all the publicity, let alone having to race Emily. As said above, the Juniors will have taken time out of studying for their exams to race, imagine getting to a race venue and finding press and protestors of both sides outside.

Matzeeo · 29/03/2022 20:26

@EmbarrassingHadrosaurus ah, this weekend might just be the warm up

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 29/03/2022 20:26

[quote Rodedooda]mobile.twitter.com/mara_yamauchi/status/1508868336087711752/photo/1[/quote]
I'm expecting that to be edited at the speed of light once British Cycling notices…

Matzeeo · 29/03/2022 20:17

Turns out Bridges will have another race to use as qualifying for the Commonwealth Games. They've been entered into the UCI 'nations cup' event in April. The whole world will see that one
www.uci.org/race-hub/2022-uci-track-nations-cup-glasgow/5Lcm4cQiB2J8EOtfIKSTCt

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 29/03/2022 20:10

@Matzeeo

The biggest upset from this weekend's racing will be if Anna Morris from Team Wales is beaten by Bridges. Anna is a junior doctor and has taken a break from her career to focus on qualifying for this year's Commonwealth Games. If Bridges qualifies for the games it'll be for Team Wales and there are limited spots. I could see the Welsh Cycling selection panel saying they need more than one result from Bridges to make a selection but I could then see Anna being bumped out of contention altogether if Bridges gets better results this weekend. I mean how can the panel justify sending Anna when there is a someone faster? This is really horrible and is having consequences for women's careers whether sporting or otherwise. Plus I noticed quite a few juniors on the start list, I think that's 16-18yrs old. This really isn't fair.

The OU GCRN had a meeting with a presentation by Cathy Devine to discuss Devine's paper ‘Female Sports Participation, Gender Identity and the British 2010 Equality Act’.

www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/17511321.2021.1993982?

There was some speculation in the meeting about whether it would be politically unwise to break Kenny's record at the upcoming event although it's well within Bridges' capacity to do so…

Rodedooda · 29/03/2022 19:56

mobile.twitter.com/mara_yamauchi/status/1508868336087711752/photo/1

Matzeeo · 29/03/2022 19:50

The biggest upset from this weekend's racing will be if Anna Morris from Team Wales is beaten by Bridges. Anna is a junior doctor and has taken a break from her career to focus on qualifying for this year's Commonwealth Games. If Bridges qualifies for the games it'll be for Team Wales and there are limited spots. I could see the Welsh Cycling selection panel saying they need more than one result from Bridges to make a selection but I could then see Anna being bumped out of contention altogether if Bridges gets better results this weekend. I mean how can the panel justify sending Anna when there is a someone faster? This is really horrible and is having consequences for women's careers whether sporting or otherwise. Plus I noticed quite a few juniors on the start list, I think that's 16-18yrs old. This really isn't fair.

FemaleAndLearning · 29/03/2022 19:41

[quote AgathaOvercome]Just saw this and that guidelines say testosterone must be