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Trans cyclist will be allowed in Commonwealth Games

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flyingbuttress43 · 23/03/2022 10:54

www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2022/03/22/exclusive-commonwealth-games-2022-allow-trans-women-cyclists/

The Daily Telegraph exclusive reports today that Commonwealth Games chiefs have agreed on new gender rules, which could pave the way for a trans woman to race for a female cycling medal.

The DT understands a potential contender, who previously competed in male categories is in serious contention to be picked. The cyclist has yet to formally confirm they want to compete in Birmingham.

The DT is now in full campaign mode re the trans in sport issue.

The sports section today has the following double page spread

www.telegraph.co.uk/athletics/2022/03/22/sport-must-face-reality-fairness-inclusion-cannot-co-exist/
Ross Tucker

www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/2022/03/22/transgender-athletes-womens-competition-sport-by-sport-guide/
By Ben Rumsby - Sports investigataions reporter

www.telegraph.co.uk/swimming/2022/03/21/terror-labelled-transphobic-now-tops-inclination-protect-womens/
Oliver Brown Chief Sports Correspondent

Plus an article "Difficult for the science to find level playing field for all"
Tom Cary Senior sports corresondent (no online link)

In the main paper
www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2022/03/22/every-win-lia-thomas-loss-women-sport/
Allison Pearson

  • Banner head on main paper "Trans sport insanity"
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OvaHere · 30/03/2022 19:08

Now at 7.15

I don't have much faith they won't just berate everyone for being big meanies.

Signalbox · 30/03/2022 18:57

Apparently British Cycling is releasing a statement at 7pm.
Will they double down?

twitter.com/runthinkwrite/status/1509227152918683655

PermanentTemporary · 30/03/2022 17:59

Exactly that @EmbarrassingHadrosaurus. We've been here so often... but maybe not quite like this.

WeWillLookBack · 30/03/2022 17:58

Feel a bit emotional looking at twitter - new voices from the sporting world speaking out.

More and more accounts bravely speaking about women's rights

There has been more and more light shone on this in the last few weeks - are we getting close to a turning point ?

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 30/03/2022 17:56

@PermanentTemporary

I'm normally the darkest of pessimists but seeing this list of young, currently competing athletes saying it's not ok... I suddenly have hope.
I'm a relentless pessimist because there have been so many times when I've thought, surely and I'm stamping on my flickers of hope at the moment.

I don't know what the tipping point in numbers will be here to give eachother cover.

PermanentTemporary · 30/03/2022 17:52

I'm normally the darkest of pessimists but seeing this list of young, currently competing athletes saying it's not ok... I suddenly have hope.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 30/03/2022 17:44

[quote HermioneKipper]Beth Dobbin, sprinter

mobile.twitter.com/BethDobbin[/quote]
twitter.com/BethDobbin/status/1509196311383453697?

HermioneKipper · 30/03/2022 17:37

Beth Dobbin, sprinter

mobile.twitter.com/BethDobbin

Signalbox · 30/03/2022 17:36

Andy Turner…

mobile.twitter.com/andyturner110h/status/1509205493813854208

Trans cyclist will be allowed in Commonwealth Games
EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 30/03/2022 17:30

[quote HermioneKipper]So grateful to these brave athletes speaking out. It shouldn’t be brave to speak the truth but it is.

Chris Tomlinson the long jumper as well

mobile.twitter.com/LongJumpChris/status/1509180647914496000[/quote]
Kylie Grimes, Paralympian (I think, I'm not the best interpreter of emoticons).

twitter.com/kyliegrimes/status/1509185910906232838?

HermioneKipper · 30/03/2022 17:14

So grateful to these brave athletes speaking out. It shouldn’t be brave to speak the truth but it is.

Chris Tomlinson the long jumper as well

mobile.twitter.com/LongJumpChris/status/1509180647914496000

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 30/03/2022 17:09

[quote Signalbox]Emily Diamond...

twitter.com/EmilyDiamond11/status/1509195733962047499[/quote]
This shouldn't require such a degree of courage but it does.

I'm so proud of these athletes.

HermioneKipper · 30/03/2022 17:04

How is this happening? It feels like the world has gone absolutely mad and we’re the only sane ones and screaming into a void.

I am boiling with rage. What can we do?

Signalbox · 30/03/2022 17:02

Emily Diamond...

twitter.com/EmilyDiamond11/status/1509195733962047499

Trans cyclist will be allowed in Commonwealth Games
KittenKong · 30/03/2022 16:55

I’ve got pairs of tights older.

Signalbox · 30/03/2022 16:47

Mercy Muroki...

"for goodness sake, I know people who have had long Covid longer than this person has supposedly been a woman"

twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1509114360022585347

Signalbox · 30/03/2022 16:34

fingers crossed things will start to snowball.

Trans cyclist will be allowed in Commonwealth Games
KittenKong · 30/03/2022 16:33

Sally Gunnel has come out in support of women on Twitter! She thinks this is nonsense.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 30/03/2022 16:06

@Darklightening

Interesting to see this a segment on Sky sports news on this. Speaker Joanna Harper. Apparently haemoglobin levels are the most important thing in this event 🙃
I have opinions on sex differences in Haemoglobin levels: The misogyny of iron deficiency

"Anaemia is common, particularly in women and the commonest underlying cause, iron deficiency, is often overlooked. Anaemia is associated with increased morbidity and mortality in patients undergoing anaesthesia; however, women are defined as being anaemic at a lower haemoglobin level than men. In this narrative review, we present the history of iron deficiency anaemia and how women’s health has often been overlooked. Iron deficiency was first described as ‘chlorosis’ and a cause of ‘hysteria’ in women and initial treatment was by iron filings in cold wine. We present data of population screening demonstrating how common iron deficiency is, affecting 12–18% of apparently ‘fit and healthy’ women, with the most common cause being heavy menstrual bleeding; both conditions being often unrecognised. We describe a range of symptoms reported by women, that vary from fatigue to brain fog, hair loss and eating ice. We also describe experiments exploring the physical impact of iron deficiency, showing that reduced exercise performance is related to iron deficiency independent of haemoglobin concentration, as well as the impact of iron supplementation in women improving oxygen consumption and fitness. Overall, we demonstrate the need to single out women and investigate iron deficiency rather than accept the dogma of normality and differential treatment; this is to say, the need to change the current standard of care for women undergoing anaesthesia."

associationofanaesthetists-publications.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/ftr/10.1111/anae.15432

massistar · 30/03/2022 16:05

[quote Enough4me]@massistar that is good to hear. Has she raised the vital need for sex-based categories to be upheld?[/quote]
Here's what she said specifically:

twitter.com/labwomendec/status/1509125454724276232?s=21&t=FqyvWjzlQXYRGpHYcpxGDQ

Darklightening · 30/03/2022 16:02

Interesting to see this a segment on Sky sports news on this. Speaker Joanna Harper. Apparently haemoglobin levels are the most important thing in this event 🙃

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 30/03/2022 15:30

@massistar

A glimmer of hope in that my local MP, Tonia Antoniazzi, has just raised this very issue in the Commons. She's a brilliant MP and this is one more reason to admire her.
I'm so envious that Tonia Antoniazzi is your MP, she's a beacon of courage on this issue.
Enough4me · 30/03/2022 15:14

@massistar that is good to hear. Has she raised the vital need for sex-based categories to be upheld?

massistar · 30/03/2022 13:49

A glimmer of hope in that my local MP, Tonia Antoniazzi, has just raised this very issue in the Commons. She's a brilliant MP and this is one more reason to admire her.

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