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Cis-gender queer woman

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EmmaGrundyForPM · 23/03/2022 05:07

A colleague described herself recently as being a cis-gender queer woman. Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but isn't that the same as being a lesbian? So why not call herself a lesbian? Presumably there's a reason but can't work out what.

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lovelyluvvy · 23/03/2022 19:41

I'm not a huge fan of Ben Shapiro, but his reactions to Woke TikToks with a lot of self-important people banging on about gender woo are quite entertaining:

Fancyfancyfancy · 23/03/2022 19:06

@FrancescaContini you can think it’s a pisstake but you still have to respect my right to be surprise gender gender.fandom.com/wiki/Surprisegender I always knew I had a natural affinity to kinder eggs and now I feel accepted.

TheSilveryTinsellyPussycat · 23/03/2022 19:03

I'm feeling a bit queer used to mean I think I'm about to vom. Back when, in addition, queer was an insulting term for male homosexual.

What is the point of her saying this if people then have to ask her what she actually means?

Deliriumoftheendless · 23/03/2022 18:57

Years ago I knew a lad who’s mum was French. He made a big thing of being dual nationality and having a French mum when no one cared one way or another. He was always at pains to point out how different he was to the rest of us with our boring parents.

Another lad said of him “deep down, I think he’s just really, really normal.”

That springs to mind a lot these days.

FrancescaContini · 23/03/2022 18:38

The comments are priceless, especially “I’m confused about my gender identity” Hmm

I’m not surprised you’re confused. It’s BULLSHIT.

FrancescaContini · 23/03/2022 18:35

[quote Fancyfancyfancy]@AKASammyScrounge there are 308 gender.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Gender_Identities[/quote]
Got to be a piss-take. Some teenager has spent a small fortune on shiny new felt tips at WH Smith and spent the afternoon making colourful creations and inventing nonsense.

Natfemale · 23/03/2022 17:10

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SamphiretheStickerist · 23/03/2022 17:08

The thing with labels us that they are supposed to clarify information.

These days though they are paraded when not necessary* and usually obscure facts.

*I am guessing she made that statement as part if bringing her whole self to work. FFS.

Fancyfancyfancy · 23/03/2022 17:02

@AKASammyScrounge there are 308 gender.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Gender_Identities

TheWeeDonkey · 23/03/2022 16:57

@BellaMachine

I wouldn’t ask - what if she is ‘spicy straight’ (Confused) and starts telling you about it…
DO NOT ASK!!!!

I made that same mistake and nobody needs to know that much detail about their colleagues sex life 🤢

Joolsin · 23/03/2022 16:55

So boring. She's probably just got a couple of piercings and snogged her best friend once when she was drunk.

lovelyluvvy · 23/03/2022 16:51

A few decades ago people called themselves 'mad' or 'crazy' when they wanted to appear fun.
That's exactly what I was thinking "I'm a bit mad, me!" said by a completely average person with a completely average life.

Enough4me · 23/03/2022 16:47

Definitely attention seeking. A few decades ago people called themselves 'mad' or 'crazy' when they wanted to appear fun. Then last decade it was 'awesome', now it's 'queer'. I'm betting it will evolve to 'kinky mad' or similar odd word.

CheekyMaw · 23/03/2022 16:40

The four young women I know who call themselves that are either married or in LTRs with men. And have only ever been in LTRs with men. Attention seeking nonsense.

bellinisurge · 23/03/2022 16:00

I asked my boss if I could put which football team I support and what religion I was born into in my email signature. He said "No, and I am certainly not asking you to put your sodding pronouns in either"

bellinisurge · 23/03/2022 15:56

"Not necessarily the same as being a lesbian, heterosexual people sometimes call themselves queer because they're in to kink."
And I give a shiny shit about a colleague's kink , why exactly?

lovelyluvvy · 23/03/2022 15:37

Why has she stood up and told everybody then? There's loads of stuff about me that I don't think is anybody else's business, so I don't go around shouting about them and making them other peoples business
I agree with this, and this is why I resent the pressure to add pronouns, which amounts to telling everyone you work with your 'gender identity'. For me, that's pretty personal. In gender ideology terminology, I suppose I'd be classed as 'librafeminine' - a new term I learned the other day, which means non-binary gender but leaning slightly towards the feminine. I mean, even I'm bored typing that out, so why should people I work with need to know? How would it change anything in a professional environment?

AtrociousCircumstance · 23/03/2022 15:26

Narcissistic bullshit.

AKASammyScrounge · 23/03/2022 15:18

@BellaMachine

Lots of us are lesbians, it’s not special enough as a label anymore, it definitely won’t stand out in your instagram bio. That’s why we now have over 300 genders and there’s probably just as many sexual orientations by now.
I thought it was ludicrous enough when I was told there were 100 genders, but 300...
Nnique · 23/03/2022 14:53

If they’re into kink they need to keep that out of their workplace. Why the hell do their colleagues need to know that?? Answer: they don’t.

sourdoughismyreligion · 23/03/2022 14:50

@EmmaGrundyForPM

A colleague described herself recently as being a cis-gender queer woman. Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but isn't that the same as being a lesbian? So why not call herself a lesbian? Presumably there's a reason but can't work out what.
Not necessarily the same as being a lesbian, heterosexual people sometimes call themselves queer because they're in to kink.
Nnique · 23/03/2022 14:47

I also don’t have to be kind to every person everywhere in order to be a good feminist. I don’t collect feminist gold stars from people who can’t define what a woman is.

Nnique · 23/03/2022 14:43

It’s not bitchy to discuss stupidity. It’s stupid to create yet more nonsensical terms and boxes for things that are just women and men having a) a sexuality and b) a personality.

itssunnyyay · 23/03/2022 14:40

@BigHeartyTruffle

Why does it matter what she calls herself? Why do people care so much? There are plenty of reasons she might refer to herself in that way, and it isn’t anyone else’s business. This board claims to be about feminism yet here you all are, making bitchy comments about a women you don’t know for a personal choice she’s has made, that has nothing to do with you.
Why has she stood up and told everybody then? There's loads of stuff about me that I don't think is anybody else's business, so I don't go around shouting about them and making them other peoples business
itssunnyyay · 23/03/2022 14:35

@TabithaHazel

It’s very confusing. I recently saw someone on Twitter describe themselves as non binary and trans. How one could be both I can’t quite work out. Your colleague might not actually be a lesbian by the way, lots of straight people are calling themselves queer these days (I think for attention). For example the model Lily Cole who is married to a man and has seemingly led a exclusively heterosexual life now describes herself as queer.
I imagine non binary trans would be, someone who feels like the opposite sex but also doesn't fit into the binary or that sex's stereotypes?

I mean let's be real almost everyone on the planet is non binary, I might start referring to myself as non binary actually, because I don't fit into the binary of female stereotypes, I think I have some masculine traits and some feminine traits, so I guess I am a straight non binary woman (she/her) 😜