M&S Reviews

This is what you're doing. He's making women quietly trying to buy underwear pay attention to him and his fetish. It's online exhibitionism. You should try reading it a bit more carefully, perhaps?

And yes, there does "seem to be a lot of anger" as you rather patronisingly observe. I first saw an erect penis as a child in a supermarket, because its sad creep of an owner chose to involve me in his fetish. I don't care if it's 'vanilla' or 'mild' - I don't want to know about it.

I don't make strangers pay attention to my fantasises (well I do actually, I'm an author, but I don't write sad porn on shopping websites, and if I did I doubt, being female, that it would be so readily indulged - as usual, it goes one way.)

I have also worked in a shop and had a man insist on trying women's dresses on and being too young (17) to tell him to piss off.

I have zero fucking interest in the sexual fetishes of random men, and I resent being made to read them on an effing M&S underwear page. Why are you trying to excuse this behaviour?

They aren’t moderating the reviews folks!!!!!!

Mens pants are being reviewed by MNers.

Oh give over greasyshoes this isn't about whether or not fetishes are allowed - this is a product review being used to show off a fetish for extra kicks. It's like someone heading over to John Lewis and rating the hoover based on how well it sucked him off.

These are period pants - ones I bought for my daughter too - and I went through the reviews with her when we bought them. I'm very glad this one wasn't one we came across. It's totally grim and we all know it. He's done it to get his rocks off and M&S are leaving it up there because they've addled their brains on Stonewall Training Manuals.

When I see certain names, I just hit a mental "hide poster" button and scroll on by. It's a technique I'd recommend to anyone who is tempted to try to reason with homophobic misogynists.

Do they sell electric toothbrushes or anything else that vibrates?

BTW that man knew females would be reading his review, he gives the ladies a shout-out at the end.

I’m not sure you’re fully grasping the issue being discussed here.

M&S have been enabling men parading their fetishes by leaving lingerie reviews for years. It’s inexplicable why they think this is a good idea

Jesus Christ, gay people spent years making people understand that being gay isn't a fetish,

I know that being gay is not a fetish, and I never suggested it was.

and yet here you are, in 2022, apparently on 'the right side of history', comparing men with cross dressing fetishes to gay people.

I didn't compare cross dressers to gay people.

Woah, that is some reach!🤣

No, it really isn't.

This could be an elderly man who is incontinent. So he likes wearing women's underwear (for whatever reason), but the fact that he is incontinent means he needs to use an incontinence pad, which is something he mentions in the review.

Nowhere is it suggested that he isn't actually incontinent.

Even if the cross dressing is a sexual thing for him, he hasn't indicated that wetting himself is part of the fetish- he might actually genuinely be incontinent.

Woah, that is some reach!🤣

He's imposing his fetish on others by posting that review.

Not any more than seeing a gay relationship on TV, or seeing a gay pride parade in public, is gay people imposing their sexuality onto me, which they aren't.

Seeing something is seeing something. Having something imposed onto you is something else altogether.

Either he knows full well that all sorts of women, including girls, will read his review. Or he hasnt even thought about the fact that all sorts of women, including girls, will read his review. Either is grim.

I can't believe you are defending it tbh. Honestly, some of the stuff people defend on this forum is just disgusting.

I know you have no idea about this, but women looking for period pants don't want to read a pervert's story about how he gets off on them.

First of all, as far as sexual fetishes go, wearing women's clothes and urinating into them is a really mild and vanilla one. There seems to be a lot of anger over this, and I'm not sure why. There's certainly no evidence that he's urinating himself in public, and no evidence that he's urinating on any else's clothing; just his own.

The second point is that I think a lot of people are reading stuff into this, which is why calling him a "pervert" is a tad extreme. We know he is a cross-dressing man, and we know he sometimes wets himself. However, he hasn't indicated this is a sexual thing (there is no mention of sexual arousal, or sex, anywhere in the review). Even if the cross dressing is a sexual thing for him, he hasn't indicated that wetting himself is part of the fetish- he might actually genuinely be incontinent.

I am a bit surprised that M&S would allow a review like this, but I don't find it to be particularly extreme or upsetting.

It's amazing how people supporting the ideology can end up defending rapists, sex offenders in spas, and perverts. And yet still think that they might be on the right side of history.

That's not true. I would never support someone imposing their fetish onto others, and I would never support a rapist, pervert, or sex offender in a spa.

I'm interested to know where they would actually draw the line of 'inclusivity' then? Is that something they can clarify?

Lauren Harvey appears to be saying that M & S have no boundaries, no understanding of safety and safeguarding, let alone how women feel as long as their customers feel comfortable in being themselves.

It's like an open invitation to every sex offender / predator in the country. Still, if that's their preferred core demographic going forward, it's up to them.

I’m so angry. M&S are now a fetish brand. I must tell my elderly mother.

Definitely open season on the mens lingerie dept. You’ll find it hidden away in the menswear section at the bottom. Underwear.

Unlike the female lingerie dept which isn’t attached to womenswear at all.

In fact I wonder if M&S haven’t been like this for years. Thinking back to a town I lived in, in the 80’s. There were two M&S shops. One was womenswear and food hall.
The other across town was menswear and womens lingerie!!! I’ve just realised.