Are the wife and children really fine?

I thought the c*s word was banned here? Odd how one small section of society can dictate how others talk about them but 50% of the population can't.

I loath this lazy idea that the wife might be bisexual. That's not how bisexuality works, that you would for a certainty fancy your partner if they started presented like the opposite sex or altered their body to resemble them. @ElaineFuchs perhaps if you're not bisexual yourself you should stop assuming you know what bisexual people might do.

Doesn’t make sense to me either, but men want to call themselves trans women that’s up to them.

What's homophobic is 2 males calling themselves lesbians. Its the modern day version of " you haven't found the right man yet"

Well it’s never a transman coming out being happily supported by his husband is it???

I do actually know a couple like this. Married young. The wife came out as trans after having their kids, never seems to have bothered the husband. Both however have always been very alternative and gender fluid. They seem (as far as one can tell from the outside) very happy. I do wonder how the kids are doing. But as a family they do seem very close, very loving, so I would assume the parents have that at the forefront of their minds as well.

I guess the only thing I would worry about would be any sort of blocking off of any potential upset, anger, worry, or even questions about the changes in their parents with some sort of blanket "Why would it even matter, I'm still me, love is love, it's all just variations of normal, what even is normal anyway" that might seek to wave those feelings away. The kids have to live in a world where their peers will not share the values they are being raised with; where the majority of families don't look like theirs; and will need explicit support understanding, coming to terms with and managing that. It can't all just be taken as read. I don't think. But then I'm not the one trying to raise my kids in this set of circs so possibly I have no idea.

Well I don't have a gender identity.

Women was a perfectly adequate word until men tried to muscle in on it. So let’s stick with that and the man can prefix away to describe themselves.

It wasn't disingenuous, I'm happy for them that they can stop worrying about this.

I find this idea of "inclusive" sexuality disturbing. Dating/sex is by its very nature ^exclusionary" you exclude 99.9999 percent of the population. Sometimes 100 if you aren't with anyone or want to be qitg anyone.

There's no need to impose ideology onto sexuality at all. It's irrelevant.

"Phwoar look at that hot gender identity at the bar" said no one ever

They may be ok with it, they may not. The 'don't worry' seems a bit dismissive.... if I was a friend of the family, I wouldn't necessarily take this at face value, I'd want to check with the wife and kids themselves and not via social media. I'd want them to know there were people they can talk to if they're not fine.

From what I gather from friends and colleagues who have came out as trans women , no , the wives and children have not been fine . But don't have any say in whether they are deemed "fine".

By the way, Blanchard's AGP theory has been discredited, so there's no need to worry about that xoxox

The more men try and 'discredit' Blanchard the more they seem to prove it.

Weird that.

Small point, I am not sure you know @TheMarzipanDildo well enough to xoxox them though. Seems a bit disingenuous. And a bit 'forced teamish'.

But sexuality is to do with sex not gender. A man attracted to a female sexed person but doesn't care how that person identifies themselves, is still heterosexual as it is the sex of the person to which they are attracted.

I wouldn't be OK with it. Live and present as you want but I do not agree with telling children there is an internal feeling that makes you a woman. It is faith based and is not reality. Unlike religion (usually) not believing leads to abuse and accusations of bigotry

Tall/short etc isn't a sex class. Women is a sex class. Tall doesn't reduce when to a subset of their own sex class.

Do not re define us in an.ideology we don't believe In. Its highly offensive .

By the way, Blanchard's AGP theory has been discredited, so there's no need to worry about that xoxox

Definitely quite sad to know that a loved one is suffering.

This is what wives and children of transitioners have to say about this.

www.transwidowsvoices.org/

childrenoftransitioners.org/

You’re referring to a group who don’t need an adjective. We just are women. Grouped by biology. All of us women regardless of our individual qualities.

Bloody hell ElaineFuchs, you've swallowed it all hook, line and sinker.