Are the wife and children really fine?

@ElaineFuchs, if you want to post in FWR, you have to follow the rules like everyone else.

C*s is not a term permitted here because it’s disrespectful of GC women. We don’t have gender identities to align with our sex, we are women by virtue of being born female.

Reciprocally, the commonly used acronym for isn’t permitted because transwomen have objected. Y’know, the diminutive of Timothy.

If you mean that her wife or children might be themselves bigoted towards her, then that would be transphobic and should rightly be called out as such!

So all dumped wives and children have to just sit back and make no comment in case it upsets the deserter?

Plenty of adult children have written about how disturbing and distressing it was when their father 'became a woman'. Personally I think it is an incredibly selfish thing to put a child through.

So ‘not being alright’ with it can basically only be predicated on a fear societal reactions/transphobia?

The emotions of the other people involved are irrelevant then? Any sense of shock, betrayal, anger, the sheer cognitive dissonance of realising your entire marriage is based on a big fat lie would be considered transphobic? Because god forbid families should express anything other than wholehearted support and understanding when a trans person puts a bomb under their lives.

“Congratulations to them all” Yeah, no pain or complication or shattered lives here - everyone’s just fucking smiling and clapping. Or so we’re supposed to believe.

*hetro

If my husband came out as trans then I'm most likely going to leave him. It may be for him and I'd accept that but I don't think I'd want to be married to someone who's trans, sorry but I just don't think I would. That doesn't make me transphobic, it just confirms my herosexuality surely

Well there are several options
They are actually fine
They really aren’t and the Transwoman is lying
They are pretending to be fine

We will never know as we are only hearing from one of the parties and it isn’t really anyone else’s business

Trans isn’t an adjective. Indeed the curious recent insistence that we must leave a gap in the word transwoman is a prime example of the attempted forced changes that are evidence that a campaign is under way. The only reason for such a change is the false attempt to claim adjective status.

Trans is a prefix, or part of a compound noun. This is most obvious when you take into account that the later part of the noun is not accurate: i.e. a “transwoman” is male, so woman is not appropriate.

This is similar to the words seahorse or clothes horse. Both are compound nouns, neither are horses.

LOL @ElaineFuchs LOL?

You find the emotional burden those women have endured hilarious?

Or is it just the thought that they may have some bearing on the OPs post that is funny?

Or is it that they tell a story that does not accord with your beliefs and so must, in their entirety be disregarded, reduced to mere amusement?

Women and men having particular shaped genitals is the biggest stereotype there is. GCs hate anyone stepping outside this regressive box.

No. GC people are critical of people being bound by gender stereotypes (the idea girls can't do certain things, boys can't dress a certain way etc etc etc). I want those old fashioned boxes gone. But we haven't lost our rationality and connection with reality - so we know humans are sexually dimorphic, and that we can't actually change sex. Sex is a physical reality, not a stereotype. A male should be free to be as 'feminine' as he wants, but he will always remain a male, and some aspects of his physical reality can't be changed.

Women and men having particular shaped genitals is the biggest stereotype there is.

Eh? Are you on glue? DSDs causing significant changes to gential structure are very rare.

Of course peni and vulva come in all shapes and sizes but they are still peni and vulva.

@PigeonLittle oh yes lesbian women are already being coerced into having to be okay with ‘womanly’ penises.

How can they be fine??

I get so upset for women who spend their lives and youth with men who are gay or trans. It is so so unfair. How can you do that to someone? Just stay single if you're not ready to come out.

And "not alright with it" is pretty obvious. She has now had her heterosexual marriage materially changed because her husabnd has decided to be her wife.

And transphobia? You mean people knowing that human beings cannot change sex? Not so terrible is it? Kids are boudn to laugh, be scared of things they don't understand and it is up to adults to explain these things to them without recourse to fair stories and 'kind lies' that will only produce firther confusion.

And if you want to state that the wife should now be delighted to have had her marriage, her own sexuality, her personal thoughts and feelings negated just say so. You don't REALLY want to force a woman to have sex with someone she doesn't want to, do you?

Oh no, see, you put that in brackets because, well, erm, you realised that that is precisely what you did say! From your first line, your first assumption onwards, you have made up a brand new reality for a woman you don't even know. Why is that? What are you trying to defend that needs such efforts to be extended?

Transphobic if my husband decides he is a woman?

Following your own logic I presume it's homophobic to reject anyone of any sex or gender?

Gay men are offensive if they reject me? Lesbian women should allow men to have sex with them?

Get a grip.

Maybe this woman's wife is bisexual or pansexual?

What difference would that make, he isn't changing his sex?

I don't think the stresses caused by your husband deciding he's a woman are purely about sex.

Elaine

I think you should fly the world amd part with your "gift"

Babies are thrown on the trash heap or aborted as a result of thise horrible stereotypes of what kind of genitals they have. Just think of all the babies you could save by revealing to others that they could be putting a boy on top of the pile of dead and dying girl babies.

Perhaps that would be a better use of your time and superiority?

genitals…. stereotype . You’re hilarious.

Women and men having particular shaped genitals is the biggest stereotype there is

Surely that's just fact based on biology?

That’s utter bollocks. Honestly do you actually listen to yourself??

Please...this will be interesting. Do explain your rationale.