I opened the can...

I am all for impartiality and politics staying out of school.

This makes no sense. You can’t have both at the same time.
Impartiality is having politics in schools but present all sides of the issue and never favouring the side that corresponds with your own beliefs or opinions.

Politics staying out of schools, is completely different and you can’t teach a forbidden subject all all, never mind impartially.

Thank you. We need more teachers like you

Completely hypocritical

@AsTreesWalking I think I'd want to be very clear with the SLT what exactly it was that was supposed to be "transphobic" and why. Otherwise you don't know what you're being accused of, or what exactly the students were upset by.

That same judgement specifically stated the right to hold those beliefs does not allow you to act on them in any way you see fit, breaching existing laws such as harassment, or in this case, classroom impartiality.

Thank you and well done OP.
I wish more would speak up.
You are brave & have integrity.
I applaud you 👏👏👏

Don't forget that your beliefs are protected in law, OP. You might want to remind them of the judgement in the Forstater EAT.

Also we DO know OP went beyond what they should do in the classroom as they themselves have stated here, "I went over to a small group and explained why I think self id is dangerous for women. With facts."

OP admitted they presented their own personal opinion of a political matter. This breaches the government guidelines I have shown you. OP would have been ok to bring up Self-Id and say that there are people opposing it and why. But only if they also presented the opposing arguments too. And never as personal opinion.

If she had mentioned opposing views as in the purported benefits of self id and framed the discussion as a classic conflict of rights situation and how it’s a societal dilemma that we are struggling with, then she would have mentioned in her OP how she was upholding her duty to impartial and presented all the different sides.

The whole incident will be gone through with a fine tooth comb. Yes OP is protected and can have any view she wants on the subject, but she cannot present only her view to students as if it were fact. The fact the students have called her transphobic doesn’t mean their complaint will be dismissed for being mistaken as what to term lack of impartiality nor does it mean OP won’t be disciplined.

I’m totally ‘gender critical’ and a teacher. I’m afraid you didn’t do this in the right way. You could have got them thinking by asking questions / posing scenarios. You must realise that we aren’t meant to share our politics with pupils? Also lecturing doesn’t work! You want to get them thinking!

Is that the way you responded to all the questions? Or on the others did you let the students express their views, perhaps throwing in some ideas or probe questions to explore areas they hadn't thought of?

I think it was brave of you but I think perhaps you were so nervous that you jumped off the 10 metre board when you could have stepped into the pool.

I am quite enjoying that those lining up to remind you of the duty of impartiality would be the ones arguing that it's excellent for Stonewall et al to be in schools.

I am all for impartiality and politics staying out of school. But currently they are not, are they? Which means if women play the game and stick to the rules they're being really rather stupid and doormats to others who won't follow the rules unless absolutely forced to.

Either everyone does the impartiality thing or no one does. No more double standards.

As a teacher your job is to be impartial, you did not do this.

Preaching TWAW certainly isn't "impartial" and most in academia are forced into this position.

Being a voice of reason in the current climate is commendable.

Except the complaint from the students was that what she said was "transphobic" not that it was pushing one political view point over another. None of us know what exactly what was said, apart from the OP, so how you can confidently assert that she went beyond what she should have done is a mystery.

As a teacher your job is to be impartial, you did not do this.

If it was in a quiz sent out by SLT for use in form time, then I can't see the issue with a resulting discussion, assuming what you were talking about was age appropriate - not sure about whether the rape in prison part would be.

Yeah...not surprised you got in trouble for this.

Quotes from gov page on impartiality in the classroom that show why:

"The law states that teachers must not promote partisan political views and should offer a balanced overview of opposing views when political issues are taught."

"What they shouldn’t do, though, is present their own, or anyone else’s, political views as fact."

"As a general principle, they should avoid expressing their own personal political views to pupils unless they are confident this will not amount to promoting that view to pupils."

Well done. It’s brave people like you who will help the tide to turn. It’s the only way we can stop the madness.

Young people deserve to be given the tools to be able to cope well with reality.

Was this during a form time discussion? Was it an otherwise "fun" news quiz with this one question included alongside various other topical questions?

is there anything in this thread that can help you?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4507097-What-is-the-DfE-guidance-on-gender-identity-etc-these-days

And thank you for raising it with your class. It only takes one seed to flourish

You aren't a member of the Free Speech Union too by any chance?

They've helped lots of people at work with this.

Shame on SLT for not encouraging some critical thinking. Well done