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Lbc Tom swarbrick right now

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GretaGip · 18/03/2022 15:20

Peter Tatchell being disengenuous as ever

Hmm
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Threadbaretoe · 29/07/2022 11:24

Sheila Fogarty was brilliant yesterday. If you listen to her on catch up at 2hrs 20 into her call, she managed the caller 'Kate' brilliantly. She would not tolerate accusations of 'far right' and 'anti-trans' as dismissal techniques of arguments. Not only in relation to slandering people but also as an argument lacking validity. We need more of this!

daringdoris · 19/03/2022 13:43

I am so glad that Tom keeps plugging away at this one.

Agreed.

Someone needs to tell him how offensive most women find 'cis' though...

Voice0fReason · 19/03/2022 10:37

Just caught up with this. Some very interesting callers.
Some wonderful women, calmly and brilliantly explaining reality.

A couple of people who sounded a bit unhinged. Couldn't respond to challenge and couldn't answer very simple questions.
Peter Tatchel showing what a misogynistic twat he is. He knows some small and dainty transwomen therefore it's fine for them to be in sports or hospital wards. And we should only exclude those men convicted of rape from women's wards.

I am so glad that Tom keeps plugging away at this one.

Monitaurus · 19/03/2022 10:27

PT going on about small dainty men who could be women. How can he do that when we have the likes of a certain swimmer parading up and down?

NancyDrawed · 19/03/2022 08:36

Gosh, I feel a teeny bit sorry for Rachel - she doesn't understand what she has been told she should believe, so she can't articulate 'her' beliefs. I wonder whether she will have a bit of a moment where she realises what she has been told is nonsense, which is WHY it makes no sense when you try to explain.

I don't know anyone who didn't start at 'be kind'

Monitaurus · 19/03/2022 00:25

One of the callers is probably the same man who popped up onto the hospital thread slandering Baroness Nicholson....very similar choice of words..

IcakethereforeIam · 18/03/2022 21:48

Eresh, glad to know, can't take all the credit though, thank Humph and the lovely Samantha.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/03/2022 20:21

icake genuinely lolled Grin

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/03/2022 20:19

can't believe he is ever invited into discussions like this

He is always invited on to discussions like this. TRAs are generally reluctant to appear. I expect in this case having an obvious MTF would make the point that women have to share single sex spaces with males.

lovelyluvvy · 18/03/2022 20:14

I thought he did a good job of letting those talking rubbish tie themselves up in knots and reveal themselves as clueless. I'm just so grateful for men like this who can see what's going on and are brave enough to get involved and shed some light on it.

RubyTrees · 18/03/2022 19:11

You're welcome Lottapianos.

Lottapianos · 18/03/2022 19:03

Thanks a lot Ruby 👍

RubyTrees · 18/03/2022 19:00

For those who might have missed this:
www.globalplayer.com/catchup/lbc/uk/episodes/2zGmMMusjmUvxC6Nn1aqX3Jq8u/

Starting at 02:03

Lottapianos · 18/03/2022 16:59

I thought he did a pretty good job of challenging them. Certainly more than most. Agree that Tatchell was given way too much air time and shouldn't be given any exposure at all

Rummikub · 18/03/2022 16:58

@Lottapianos

'Surely any parent can see it’s ultimate aim.'

You absolutely don't need to be a parent to be horrified by this

Agree

But was reflecting on my awareness and it not occurs g to me till I was a parent
And now I cannot unsee it

KittenKong · 18/03/2022 16:56

🤣

IcakethereforeIam · 18/03/2022 16:56

Kittenkong
Are they testy calls?

KittenKong · 18/03/2022 16:56

They never question or challenge. It’s always ‘awwww☹️’ ‘Uhuh😕’ ‘owwwww🙁’ ‘thank you so much for calling’

Lottapianos · 18/03/2022 16:55

'Surely any parent can see it’s ultimate aim.'

You absolutely don't need to be a parent to be horrified by this

Noisyprat · 18/03/2022 16:52

I listened to this, in fairness to Tom Swarbrick he often has 'trans' stories on.

I am disappointed however that, yet again, we get Peter Tatchel talking crap, whilst Tom did pull him up a bit, not enough in my view. He allowed the second caller way too long although they did let quite a lot of sunlight in. I agree @KittenKong they do given transwomen a lot of air time which actually I wouldn't mind if there was robust questionning.

The hour didn't focus sufficiently on the hospital incident imo.

KittenKong · 18/03/2022 16:43

LBC seem to have a lot of night time listeners who are trans women. Many a night (insomniac) I have heard the voice of ‘Doris from Basingstoke’ and ‘Jane from Battersea’. Never heard a trans man call in though.

Rummikub · 18/03/2022 16:39

Since having daughters I have properly opened my eyes

endofthelinefinally · 18/03/2022 16:28

Indeed. I wasn't a parent at that time, but I was working in the NHS in a job that required basic safeguarding and it was very obvious to me and all my colleagues.

Rummikub · 18/03/2022 16:22

Frightening.
Surely any parent can see it’s ultimate aim.

endofthelinefinally · 18/03/2022 16:19

@Rummikub

I don’t really understand PIE and how it got any traction. I vaguely remembered it at the time but it didn’t really register. Only relatively recently have I read more and been shocked about their plan.
They had a lot of support from people in government. Including Harriet Harman, if I remember correctly. Whenever I am puzzled regarding how some people seem to be teflon coated, I assume they must know where the bodies are buried. Given that there are so many incompetent people in high office, even to the extent of being given peerages and knighthoods, there must be an awful lot of bodies.