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Another man taking a woman's place.....

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SunniDelite · 16/03/2022 10:38

twitter.com/PoetintheCityUK/status/1503784417998917634/photo/1
They've got us down, now they're poking us with sticks.... :(

Another man taking a woman's place.....
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Deliriumoftheendless · 19/03/2022 13:48

I’m so excited for how they will celebrate Black History Month! It’s got to be super duper inclusive! I can’t wait for the progressiveness!

RedPanda901 · 19/03/2022 12:21

Imagine it was Trans festival and it was a feminist speaker who'd made derogatory comments on social media about trans people. Do you think Poet in the City would have issued the same statement?!

SamphiretheStickerist · 19/03/2022 12:20

@AuxArmesCitoyens

Do we know for sure that the fish tweeter is the same guy?
When all was open to see yes, it did seem to be the same person, or a twin, doppleganger, maybe.
Helleofabore · 19/03/2022 12:08

The tweets are from 27th June 2018.

Helleofabore · 19/03/2022 12:05

Well, the twitter name is the same. However, that person has locked there account so I cannot check. The image could be doctored, but it does fit with the other tweets.

AuxArmesCitoyens · 19/03/2022 11:27

Do we know for sure that the fish tweeter is the same guy?

Helleofabore · 19/03/2022 10:59

And posters are in full support of this person being lauded as a 'woman who has achieved' by that organisation.

A male who writes threatening posts to whoever doesn't validate their declaration that they are a woman.

While declaring that they will never lower their testosterone or get surgery which even some other women will accept as an effort that deserves entry into to being a 'woman'.

(NOTE: I do not accept this as any effort except for a male to have extreme plastic surgery for their own needs and it doesn't change their sex)

Helleofabore · 19/03/2022 10:54

yes

Hasselhoffsheadband · 19/03/2022 10:25

Wait, so is that actually Alexis in the photo of the man standing in his undies saying 'I will still break your face'????

Helleofabore · 19/03/2022 09:00

Wow! That tweet of Alexis’!

I am constantly surprised that posters keep supporting males like this as ‘women’. Males who are very attached to their dicks as this one seems to be. Aggressively so.

The fact that this male also tweets things like

trans girls have better pussy than fish. fact

fish = cis women. lol

And if you say they are a man then they (this male) will break your face.

And yet… posters are defending this person’s right to be included in a programme celebrating the progression of women. And the organisers have not acknowledged these tweets. Of misogyny (fish) and violence.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 19/03/2022 08:48

@Ereshkigalangcleg

They've cancelled the event and put it online due to 'safety concerns'

Maybe they are worried Alexis might "break someone's face".

Yes. In which case it's a good call to protect people from Alexis.

We have no assurance about the quality of Alexis' judgment in such matters and only evidence of the threatening rhetoric Alexis uses.

VelvetChairGirl · 19/03/2022 08:44

@Janesmom

Surely the organisers can invite anyone they want to speak. Their event; their prerogative.

If people don’t like it (i) don’t go, or (ii) organise your own event. Then you’re guaranteed to be catered for!

the dictionary is your friend

" herstory
ˈhəːst(ə)ri

noun
history viewed from a female or specifically feminist perspective."

I know some men claim to be feminists but somehow I think calling women fish, threatening to punch people and demanding to be accepted into womanhood with your meat and 2 veg, rather swings any man completely the other way on the rights-omitter so far into the mens rights zone that the needle breaks.

Another man taking a woman's place.....
Theeyeballsinthefuckingsky · 19/03/2022 07:57

The ratio on the tweet is a joy though 😁

LittleWhingingWoman · 19/03/2022 07:56

@Janesmom

Surely the organisers can invite anyone they want to speak. Their event; their prerogative.

If people don’t like it (i) don’t go, or (ii) organise your own event. Then you’re guaranteed to be catered for!

Just curious. Do you think the person in the photo is a woman?
LittleWhingingWoman · 19/03/2022 07:54

[quote cataline]They've cancelled the event and put it online due to 'safety concerns'

https://www.poetinthecity.co.uk/news/statement-herstory?fbclid=IwAR2ESFP4v3DJQEBHwwSSP19ODpJtgilr3jbLX-gcnvYz5FRY8JjM3qPxk[/quote]
"Safety concerns" = scared of mothers and grandmothers.
Scared of women.

PoisonCrystal · 19/03/2022 07:48

They’re talking bollocks.

Cancelled / turned online only “to ensure the safety of everyone involved”
I quote:
“ Poet in the City is a progressive organisation working across a range of communities, and together with our partners, we condemn transphobia, and all forms of hate and discrimination in the strongest possible terms, and work to break down barriers where they occur.”

It makes no sense.

If they value safety, and are truly, honestly, and completely committed against ALL forms of hate and discrimination,, surely they would not have engaged such an openly violently misogynistic individual in the first place?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/03/2022 07:27

They've cancelled the event and put it online due to 'safety concerns'

Maybe they are worried Alexis might "break someone's face".

MadameKali · 19/03/2022 07:18

@334bu that statement is an absolute joke.
So calling Alexis a man is transphobic?! If they believed for one second Alexis was a woman, they would stand by it and the festival would go ahead. They know they're talking shit and have pulled the mean-women-are-a-danger-to-delicate-people-like-Alexis card. I have even less respect for them now.

The wheels are really starting to come off the whole shitshow now. People have had enough and aren't prepared to put up with it anymore. Huzzah!

334bu · 19/03/2022 06:49

www.poetinthecity.co.uk/news/statement-herstory

Link for statement. Earlier link not working.

Helleofabore · 19/03/2022 05:51

And by special category, I mean a category that is open to both sexes. Such as one of ‘someone who has supported women achieve’ in a way that deserves recognition.

But a category open to both sexes.

Helleofabore · 19/03/2022 05:49

@Janesmom

Surely the organisers can invite anyone they want to speak. Their event; their prerogative.

If people don’t like it (i) don’t go, or (ii) organise your own event. Then you’re guaranteed to be catered for!

Great.

Don’t call it a celebration of ‘women’s’ achievement though. Call it a celebration of ‘whatever mixed sex / special group’ you want. But don’t include people who are male in female events. Unless it is in a special category.

How is it fair and celebrating women’s achievements when still today from birth, girls experience sexist discrimination and a male is included in that celebration? One who has not overcome the issues that the women have had to? Sure, they have overcome their own issues, but sexist discrimination from birth is not one of them.

And if you are not celebrating the overcoming of sexist discrimination, why have a sex segregated event at all?

Same with recognising LGBT or any other segregated category event. If you are not recognising that person’s achievement of overcoming discrimination for that protected characteristic why have that public event?

Totally different if it was celebrating the achievement of a private group. But this was a public event supposedly celebrating female achievement.

Obviously, some people will try to equate the issues that a transitioned male has had to overcome vs that of a female. But it is foolish to do so, it is a false equivalence.

And any person who thinks girls today experience no sexist discrimination (including that from their own peers), either don’t have young children who are girls or live in utopia. In which case, please tell where you live because I think we will all want to join you.

ErrolTheDragon · 18/03/2022 23:17

Surely the organisers can invite anyone they want to speak. Their event; their prerogative.

Sure they can, if they want to make a compete mockery of the concept of 'herstory'. They can't do it and not expect to be criticised roundly for doing so.

Janesmom · 18/03/2022 23:08

Surely the organisers can invite anyone they want to speak. Their event; their prerogative.

If people don’t like it (i) don’t go, or (ii) organise your own event. Then you’re guaranteed to be catered for!

cataline · 18/03/2022 23:05

They've cancelled the event and put it online due to 'safety concerns'

https://www.poetinthecity.co.uk/news/statement-herstory?fbclid=IwAR2ESFP4v3DJQEBHwwSSP19ODpJtgilr3jbLX-gcnvYz5FRY8JjM3qPxk

IcakethereforeIam · 18/03/2022 16:45

Pardon my pronouns, I was hedging my bets in case it wasn't Thea! This probably deserves its own thread.