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Manchester MVAGW vigil and woman beaten up

80 replies

MidCenturyClegs · 12/03/2022 20:38

I don't know an awful lot about it other than a woman was dragged to the floor by 1 or 2 trans activists males (of course).

It's absolutely shocking.

twitter.com/belstaffie/status/1502728275587698694?s=21

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AlisonDonut · 14/03/2022 12:00

How better to show how not a man you are than by attacking women and for other men to let you off with a caution.

Sophoclesthefox · 14/03/2022 11:54

[quote DomesticatedZombie]Write up here: 4w.pub/manchester-male-violence/[/quote]
Jesus Christ.

Whatever happened to “be kind”, eh?

Why does it not extend to not assaulting women on a march for womens rights?

Rhetorical question, obviously. We know why.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 14/03/2022 10:53

I can't get over how far that sort of behaviour is from the way that women behave. I thought these pricks believe themselves to be women? If so, how come they show off their boring male entitlement all the time?

To Belstaffie's assailants - just incase you happen upon this place. See all that time and effort you put into learning how to change your walk, how you sit, how to do eyeliner flick, how to get wigs to sit correctly, how to tuck, how to talk, how to pass? None of it works because we see your anger and angry women don't behave like you do.

If you want to pass then watch and learn from how the women you angered by attacking Belstaffie respond.

You watch as women hear about what you did and more and more of us wake up. If you were smart you'd have engaged in debate, not assault, then these new women would have been left blissfully unaware. You couldn't, though, you couldn't control your behaviour because there was a woman saying and doing things you didn't want her to, so your testosterone kicked in and you did something very male in response - you responded with aggression. If passing is your goal you might want to work on that.

Drawing attention to women protesting about the loss of our rights, assaulting us and showing the country how it was dismissed by the police, making space for women to say "acid attacks happen routinely so milk shake is not benign", showing everyone who Belstaffie is and leading them to her amazing work, particularly, #punteroftheweek...well, I need to say "thanks, skinny TRA dude for sacrificing your protein shake for the good of the sisterhood"

You're doing our work for us, you absolute fool.

Can we get #punteroftheweek trending? Might cheer Belstaffie up.

DomesticatedZombie · 14/03/2022 10:36

Write up here: 4w.pub/manchester-male-violence/

DomesticatedZombie · 14/03/2022 10:13

We've seen women attacked in France, Spain, South America. It's a worldwide anti-women movement. Anti feminist, anti women, violent males. Plus ca change.

ScreamingMeMe · 14/03/2022 09:57

The same thing happened in Australia.

DomesticatedZombie · 14/03/2022 09:49

This is an old article - 15 acid attacks a week in the UK in 2018.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/shocking-fifteen-acid-attacks-happen-13073723

Another old-ish one:

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/acid-attacks-uk-highest-world-figures-police-revealed-a8098236.html

'UK has one of highest rates of acid attacks in the world, police reveal

An average of two attacks a day are recorded by forces across the country'

Imnobody4 · 14/03/2022 09:36

The judge in the trial of Farage's attacker said exactly this. It's about provoking fear.

DomesticatedZombie · 14/03/2022 09:31

@Waitwhat23

My first thought was - if someone threw some sort of liquid at me at a march, my first thought wouldn't be that it was a milkshake. My first thought would be that it was corrosive and meant to harm, like acid. There's plenty of 'it's only a milkshake comments' on Twitter but it's meant as a fear tactic.
Of course it is. As soon as someone resorts to violence, threat and intimidation they have crossed the line.

I'm shocked and furious that the police didn't take this more seriously.

DomesticatedZombie · 14/03/2022 09:30

Women can't protest against male violence without being attacked.

We can't name men who attack women.

The men are able to boast openly about attacking women.

I see.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 14/03/2022 09:28

allmywhat

I wouldn’t post names on this thread as it will probably result in the thread being targeted for complaints leading to it being deleted.

There are some people who are very keen to shut down discussions about MVAGW as Belstaffie’s experience shows.

Waitwhat23 · 14/03/2022 09:28

My first thought was - if someone threw some sort of liquid at me at a march, my first thought wouldn't be that it was a milkshake. My first thought would be that it was corrosive and meant to harm, like acid. There's plenty of 'it's only a milkshake comments' on Twitter but it's meant as a fear tactic.

allmywhat · 14/03/2022 09:21

What is his name? Prospective employers and romantic partners should be able to find his violence against women with a simple Google search. Would it be breaking a rule to have his name on the thread?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/03/2022 08:50

The little thug is openly boasting about it on Twitter. Is that not harassment of a victim of crime?

KittenKong · 14/03/2022 08:42

Have any papers picked this up yet?

darlingdodo · 14/03/2022 08:27

When you think of what Maya Forster and many others have been put through for using (totally correct and legal) words, then this individual receives a caution for (using a favourite TRA term) 'literal violence'. Beggars belief.

KittenKong · 14/03/2022 08:18

Was this the person who said on twitter that he watched his own mum be a victim of DV as a child?

As someone on twitter said - he accepted a caution which means it’s recorded (along with previous attack/s). Sadly he is being egged on by folx on social media and I can’t see it ending well if he is emboldened (and others too).

OvaHere · 14/03/2022 00:49

@Redshoeblueshoe

Ova you are right it's a fabulous username
I know, right? Wish I'd thought of it. Grin
Redshoeblueshoe · 14/03/2022 00:48

Ova you are right it's a fabulous username

OvaHere · 14/03/2022 00:45

@Scorchedterf

It’s clear. Male women are better than female women. If your a female woman you need to be kind and let the male women do exactly what they want , even physically attack you, and the authorities will be very lenient to the male women.
Quite.

Really like your username btw Grin

Redshoeblueshoe · 14/03/2022 00:22

Yes Scortched I think I will be a much better woman when I grow a penis 🤣

Scorchedterf · 14/03/2022 00:01

It’s clear. Male women are better than female women.
If your a female woman you need to be kind and let the male women do exactly what they want , even physically attack you, and the authorities will be very lenient to the male women.

Cheekymaw · 13/03/2022 23:56

That's disgraceful - a caution ! Love Belstaffie - she has done so much really important stuff. I hope she is okay .

Redshoeblueshoe · 13/03/2022 23:43

Belstaffie is bloody amazing and if I see her round Manchester I'll buy her a drink !

Rhannion · 13/03/2022 23:39

Belstaffie is a force of nature.