Page 3 | JK Rowling on Keir Starmer

NancyDrawed · 2022-03-12T14:20:16+00:00

In the Daily Mail [[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10605735/JK-Rowling-slams-Keir-Starmer-Labour-leader-says-trans-women-women.html]] 'This hill we're all supposed to be dying on is mighty crowded, isn't it? And we all seem very lively, too...' Love her!

ValkyrieVik · 13/03/2022 19:46

far higher chance she just wants to live her life the best way she can

By insisting on entering women's spaces? So "living her best life" whilst simultaneously trampling all over women's right to live their best life? ie going into a public toilet without the risk of people with penises being in there?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 13/03/2022 19:37

@JustAnotherPoster00

So very wealthy woman refuses to vote Labour, who would tax more of her wealth, because 'trans' whilst the Tory parties policies kill disabled and vulnerable woman through the removal of services and destitution due to the inadequate benefits system, does the holy one suggest who to vote for or is just a case of fuck the poor and lets get on with this right wing moral panic?

Solidarity sisters [eye roll]

I see that in the short time I've been occupied in the kitchen others have put you straight on the many, many inaccuracies in this short post. So it just remains for me to say: You utter, utter numpty.

DrSbaitso · 13/03/2022 19:00

Suggest nobody checks out Shitter this evening if they value their sanity. How does she stand all this crap from such twats?

Rhannion · 13/03/2022 18:42

@DrSbaitso

Look, here's the TL;DR for those who can't read a short and well-written piece before blundering in.

It's not that transwomen are all predators. It's that opening women's spaces to any male person who just says he identifies as female, no further process required, is wide open to abuse by predatory men. It's happened already and judging by the daily death and rape threats, and hijacking of a thread about children's art work with obscene images, it will happen again.

You are not being virtuous or liberal by encouraging this. Think about reality, not your self image.

Well said!

Waitwhat23 · 13/03/2022 18:39

@JustAnotherPoster00

So very wealthy woman refuses to vote Labour, who would tax more of her wealth, because 'trans' whilst the Tory parties policies kill disabled and vulnerable woman through the removal of services and destitution due to the inadequate benefits system, does the holy one suggest who to vote for or is just a case of fuck the poor and lets get on with this right wing moral panic?

Solidarity sisters [eye roll]

One of the first results from a Google search using the words 'Jk Rowling Tax' - "Harry Potter author JK Rowling forks out £50m in tax as one of UK's top contributors - Daily Record" www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/celebrity/harry-potter-author-jk-rowling-21366970.amp

I have no idea how she currently votes but she's always been a vocal supporter of and donator to the Labour Party in the past.

Again, all this information is very easily accessed through Google.

UnshakenNeedsStirring · 13/03/2022 18:39

@Waitwhat23

If a transwoman wants to share your space so what? Of course there is a tiny chance she could have a sinister motive but there is a far higher chance that she just wants to live her life the best way she can and may need some legal protection to do that.

How many women are acceptable collateral?

There are women being raped in the female prison estate by convicted sexual offenders who identify as women.

There are women having to self exclude from rape crisis services because organisations are refusing to provide single sex services, despite being allowed to due to the exemptions in the Equality Act 2010.

Female athletes are being cheated in sporting competitions by having to compete with males and are being silenced by their sporting authorities when they raise concerns.

I could go on and on. There are so many examples.

How many women are acceptable collateral?

And as we keep saying, self id means that any man, however they identify, can declare themselves a woman (no change needed to appearance or presentation) and access single sex spaces. If a woman raises concerns, she is branded a transphobe and subject to the silencing effect.

You really can't see how this could be abused by predators?

100% this!!! Agree absolutely what you have written

Hasselhoffsheadband · 13/03/2022 18:31

The sole reason that JK Rowling is so wealthy is because the public have spent billions of pounds because they love her work so much. She literally earned every penny!

As someone said on the other thread, there is definitely more than a whiff of misogyny around women who earn lots of money, and they are made far more accountable for donating to charity, making sure they donate to the right people, not being allowed to enjoy living in big mansions without being made to feel just a little bit guilty about that. Even when they do all those things, and they are the only billionaire who came off the billionaire list due to the donations they made to charity!

NurseBernard · 13/03/2022 18:26

@JustAnotherPoster00

So very wealthy woman refuses to vote Labour, who would tax more of her wealth, because 'trans' whilst the Tory parties policies kill disabled and vulnerable woman through the removal of services and destitution due to the inadequate benefits system, does the holy one suggest who to vote for or is just a case of fuck the poor and lets get on with this right wing moral panic?

Solidarity sisters [eye roll]

It would be great if people could try not to embarrass themselves.

Helpful reminder: this is the feminist forum - people tend to be on the well-read, educated and widely informed side here.

spacehardware · 13/03/2022 17:49

She understands full well what is like to be a vulnerable woman, because she was one.

spacehardware · 13/03/2022 17:48

JKR left her fist marriage due to domestic violence and lived on benefits. She wrote the early drafts of Harry Potter long hand in a cafe.

Why don't people Google fgs

vamptramp · 13/03/2022 17:14

@spacehardware

"Men are not all inherently capable of violence just because of their biology."

Yes, they are. Snd we can't tell which ones are and aren't violent/predatory in advance, hence the purpose of single sex spaces.

Around 95% of sexual offences are committed by men and 88% of victims are women.

Trans women have the same offending rates as men btw. Because that's what they are.

Yep.

AlisonDonut · 13/03/2022 17:04

Hopefully I wrote that in short enough sentences for you to cope with, you half-wit

Impressive rant without breaking the rules. I couldn't type mine out.

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 13/03/2022 17:00

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bellinisurge · 13/03/2022 16:58

Wow, single mother / victim of domestic violence isn't allowed to be successful. Important bit of mansplaining there.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 13/03/2022 16:57

Labour

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 13/03/2022 16:57

@JustAnotherPoster00

So very wealthy woman refuses to vote Labour, who would tax more of her wealth, because 'trans' whilst the Tory parties policies kill disabled and vulnerable woman through the removal of services and destitution due to the inadequate benefits system, does the holy one suggest who to vote for or is just a case of fuck the poor and lets get on with this right wing moral panic?

Solidarity sisters [eye roll]

I really don't think this is who JKR is. She has been a very vocal About supporter and friend of Gordon Brown and his wife, I think and she is very generous in her charity donations.

You look at that and all you see is a "wealthy woman"? She's earned every penny of it, even if so.

ScrollingLeaves · 13/03/2022 16:52

Trans women are not women. They are a sub-set of men.

FrancescaContini · 13/03/2022 16:46

@JustAnotherPoster00

So very wealthy woman refuses to vote Labour, who would tax more of her wealth, because 'trans' whilst the Tory parties policies kill disabled and vulnerable woman through the removal of services and destitution due to the inadequate benefits system, does the holy one suggest who to vote for or is just a case of fuck the poor and lets get on with this right wing moral panic?

Solidarity sisters [eye roll]

Really very ignorant (eye roll too)

Mummyoflittledragon · 13/03/2022 16:39

JKR used to be one of those women @JustAnotherPoster00

All conveniently forgotten. Her massive charitable donations swept under the carpet.

She’d have been idolised 15 years ago.

DrSbaitso · 13/03/2022 16:36

@JustAnotherPoster00

So very wealthy woman refuses to vote Labour, who would tax more of her wealth, because 'trans' whilst the Tory parties policies kill disabled and vulnerable woman through the removal of services and destitution due to the inadequate benefits system, does the holy one suggest who to vote for or is just a case of fuck the poor and lets get on with this right wing moral panic?

Solidarity sisters [eye roll]

You haven't got a clue what she does with her money, have you?

There's this amazing pattern of JKR's detractors not actually knowing bare basic facts before opining about them. Like the brainiac earlier on this thread who jabbered a bit about Rowling's bullshit and then admitted they hadn't read what she'd written.

I blame Twitter, I really do. We've got an entire demographic of very loud people who can't handle anything that can't be said in 250 characters.

DinosaurOnlySpaces · 13/03/2022 16:35

However I do really object to the Daily Mail type crap that everyone is to be doubted and feared. The sort of nonsense that makes people feel all refugees are scroungers, that all teenagers are wasters who only want screen time or the EU only wanted to screw us by taking our money and imposing restrictions on us. This is a dangerous view of the world.

The situation here is more like somebody French, living in France, employed in France throughout their career, saying they identify as English because they like roast beef, and then trying to claim unemployment benefit in the UK.

It's fine to exclude people from services which were never set up for them. It's not discriminatory.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 13/03/2022 16:29

Hahahaha - JKR literally demoted herself from billionaire status because she donated so much to charity. Unlike many vastly wealthy ppl she resides in & pays UK tax levels

But do carry on trying your desperate smear attempts

It is not womens fault that Labour are such utter fuckwits on this issue

bellinisurge · 13/03/2022 16:29

I'm the opposite of a wealthy woman. Lifelong Labour voter (1987 first vote) until Corbyn. I won't vote Labour.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 13/03/2022 16:25

So very wealthy woman refuses to vote Labour, who would tax more of her wealth, because 'trans' whilst the Tory parties policies kill disabled and vulnerable woman through the removal of services and destitution due to the inadequate benefits system, does the holy one suggest who to vote for or is just a case of fuck the poor and lets get on with this right wing moral panic?

Solidarity sisters [eye roll]

VelvetChairGirl · 13/03/2022 14:45

theres no such thing as a women-only space except those designated by the laws about single sex provision.

thats sex, not gender.

trans women are a subset of males.
trans men are a subset of females.

thus women only spaces under the law are for women and trans men only and vice versa.