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JK Rowling on Keir Starmer

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NancyDrawed · 12/03/2022 14:20

In the Daily Mail

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10605735/JK-Rowling-slams-Keir-Starmer-Labour-leader-says-trans-women-women.html

'This hill we're all supposed to be dying on is mighty crowded, isn't it? And we all seem very lively, too...'

Love her!

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EdgeOfSeventeenAndThreeQuarter · 12/03/2022 17:00

lifeinthelastlane tbf, my kids don’t know much about the law aside 10 commandments type stuff - but they can spot an imposter at 50 paces. My youngest asked me why “the man was pretending to be a lady” though…

rabbitwoman · 12/03/2022 17:00

@WeirdArchitecture

Funny how a filth rag like the DM is suddenly considered credible if it suits our narrative.

Considering the sexist, low level trash this tabloid generally spews out, how anyone can take it seriously astounds me.

If I was going to link to this story I would give the DM a wide berth. If there is an alternative article I would recommend posting a link for those of us who prefer actual journalism.

I am no fan, at all, of the daily mail, but also I remember it played a significant part of getting convictions for the murderers of Stephen Lawrence, by printing the photos of the five men and saying 'we accuse them of the murder of Stephen Lawrence, if we are wrong, sue us.'

That takes some big balls. And I guess the mail prints these stories because it does not gaf.

HRTQueen · 12/03/2022 16:58

What bullshit is that exactly?

Biological facts ?

lovelyweathertoday · 12/03/2022 16:58

@BiggerBoat1

She's awful and needs to shut up. Plenty of people on here lapping up her bullshit though I see!

Do you have an actual argument beyond wanting her to "shut up"?

Stopsnowing · 12/03/2022 16:57

Also keir Isfahan a woman is an adult human female as you say, then transwomen cannot be women as they are not female.

Speakeasy22 · 12/03/2022 16:57

Thank you J K Rowling. So many women just do not know what the politicians are doing.

Lifeinthelastlane · 12/03/2022 16:57

@EdgeOfSeventeenAndThreeQuarter

lifeinthefastlane he knows EXACTLY what an adult female human is. That’s why he married one.
So does he think we are stupid? I really don't understand the behaviour from someone who supposedly understands the law! What a let down.
Stopsnowing · 12/03/2022 16:57

Keir is being ridiculous. I am now politically homeless. JKR is a star!

lovelyweathertoday · 12/03/2022 16:56

@WeirdArchitecture

Funny how a filth rag like the DM is suddenly considered credible if it suits our narrative.

Considering the sexist, low level trash this tabloid generally spews out, how anyone can take it seriously astounds me.

If I was going to link to this story I would give the DM a wide berth. If there is an alternative article I would recommend posting a link for those of us who prefer actual journalism.

As you say, a sexist rag like the Mail. I guess they have always been clear what type of person is woman.

Has the Guardian picked up this story? Maybe we could link to that if they do!

BiggerBoat1 · 12/03/2022 16:56

She's awful and needs to shut up. Plenty of people on here lapping up her bullshit though I see!

DialSquare · 12/03/2022 16:55

Isn't Caspar Salmon the one who told LOJ to find himself a broody Lesbian?

EdgeOfSeventeenAndThreeQuarter · 12/03/2022 16:55

lifeinthefastlane he knows EXACTLY what an adult female human is. That’s why he married one.

EricCartmansMagicalUnderpants · 12/03/2022 16:54

@WestendVBroadway

Another reason for me to dislike JK Rowling!
She must be weeping into her cornflakes.

Oh. Wait...

Enough4me · 12/03/2022 16:54

I'd bring some Tunnock tea cakes, and a big rug as dinosaurs take up room.

Rowlingfan · 12/03/2022 16:52

I’m spreading out the picnic blanket and about to open the thermos. Not moving from this hill. Nope. Love the company.

And if I look down there seem to be more and more people joining us.

Thanks JKR. You’re bloody ace.

Lifeinthelastlane · 12/03/2022 16:49

So KS simultaneously believes women are adult females and TWAW. He does not see anything contradictory about this?

bishophaha · 12/03/2022 16:48

@WeirdArchitecture

Funny how a filth rag like the DM is suddenly considered credible if it suits our narrative.

Considering the sexist, low level trash this tabloid generally spews out, how anyone can take it seriously astounds me.

If I was going to link to this story I would give the DM a wide berth. If there is an alternative article I would recommend posting a link for those of us who prefer actual journalism.

I agree. The tweets are the actual statements, which can be gotten from Twitter without the "hit out at" bollocks. I am experienced at filtering it all out though, so just read the tweets....

As a general rule i like to cite as primary source as I can - it's good practice - unless the way an article is written is part of the story (eg the Guardian's very specific focus on one part of the Cass interim report).

HRTQueen · 12/03/2022 16:45

I’m glad e DM is picking up on this

The more people are aware of how it is impacting women and not just a spat on social media the better

Worldwide2 · 12/03/2022 16:43

She's a bloody hero!! 😍

Iknowitisheresomewhere · 12/03/2022 16:42

I am so fed up with ‘TWAW but I support women only spaces’. It means nothing because that person’s definition of women includes men.

Interviewers are going to have to be very clear. ‘Do you support single sex spaces ie only for biological females’ or ‘given you think TWAW, what is your word for ‘human of the female sex’ (which includes everyone of that sex and excludes everyone not of that sex). Do you support spaces (prisons, hospital wards) exclusively for those people?’

Gilmorehill · 12/03/2022 16:42

None of the young people I know can be bothered with the trans debate.

Lifeinthelastlane · 12/03/2022 16:41

I am kind of waiting for the SG to arrest her under one of their thought crime laws. They won't go after someone like her though will they

AlisonDonut · 12/03/2022 16:40

@WeirdArchitecture

Funny how a filth rag like the DM is suddenly considered credible if it suits our narrative.

Considering the sexist, low level trash this tabloid generally spews out, how anyone can take it seriously astounds me.

If I was going to link to this story I would give the DM a wide berth. If there is an alternative article I would recommend posting a link for those of us who prefer actual journalism.

Does it really matter if the story is what we are talking about?

A legal publication published a story. Does the whole history of the publication need to be taken into consideration as to whether we believe the story, or are allowed to talk about it?

Is that not 'purity politics' in which only lily white virgin publications are allowed an opinion?

If that is the case can you please let us know what publications we are allowed to:
a - read
b - discuss.

Thanks so much.

Enough4me · 12/03/2022 16:38

The Times have stopped comments under trans articles, but readers are all commenting under the open comments on other articles. KS and Labour are being laughed at. After all, how is it not possible to know what women are?

WellThatsMeScrewed · 12/03/2022 16:36

I really fucking fed up.