Starmer on what a woman is, and GRA reform

The same in an adult situation...

Because that is very scary!

Do you remember the Pink News tweet where they posted the hostage-style vid of Starmer saying TWAW?

Here are the tweet engagement stats:

What a disgrace to both the Labour Party and also their inept PR machine

I'm really shocked at this. Why are Labour piling into this debate?
There's other much bigger issues they should be focussing on.
Just let women be women (and protect their hard won rights) and let Trans women be trans women

I emailed him pre pandemic and told him to self identify as a woman then finally labour could have a woman leader.

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Knock yourselves out if you want to say anything to him.

He wont see them but he cannot ever whine that no one told him what was happening in the real world and how angry women are.

I agree with AlsoNotAGirl, I'm at that same point. I'm a lifelong Labour supporter & voter & note the number of posters saying they'll spoil their vote rather than vote tory. I don't intend to waste my previous vote but will lend it to the tories & make it clear that women's rights matter & they must put their money where their mouth is. Abstaining my vote is not the answer.

I always thought he was a tory trojan horse to make sure labour are unelectable, every time he opens his mouth he just cements my view further.

I will never vote labour again, not in a general election, not in a local election or the mayoral election, until that man is gone.

I find it bemusing that a man of his intelligence would try and spend so much time pursuing a lie. Trying to convince people that men can be women. It's absurd.

I find this so depressing. How many voters is labour going to lose from this? Does anyone know?

I will not be voting labour. Even if he doesn't care about women, surely he cares that he will be losing valuable votes. JKR of course very good on this of course.

I can’t be bothered playing that game.

One simple solution to avoid confusion would be to get rid entirely of the words "man / men and woman/ women" and replace them with "male / males and female/ females ".

If the definition of woman and man can be changed, so can male and female. It's already happening - people are starting to say 'biological female', as a response to males becoming female through surgery and drugs.

So

"Asked to define a woman, Starmer replied: “A woman is a female adult, and in addition to that trans women are women, and that is not just my view — that is actually the law."

Meanwhile the Oxford Dictionary defines a female as: "belonging to the sex that can lay eggs or give birth to babies".

So by Starmers definition a woman can be both male and female. One simple solution to avoid confusion would be to get rid entirely of the words "man / men and woman/ women" and replace them with "male / males and female/ females ".

It's such bullshit. Here is a man who wants to reform the GRA so that any man can legally 'change gender'.

The same GRA that he refers to when discussing 'what a woman is'.

So he is saying that a woman is an adult human female, and any man who decides to identify as a woman.

And he reckons this is some kind of 'gotcha, how can you argue with this?'

1/10 for effort Keir. Just admit you don't give a shit about women.

Presumably we've all got to start asking for definitions.
What's the difference between a woman and a transwoman?

He's told us the difference - woman are female, but males get to be woman too. What we need him to say out loud is what is the difference between a man and a trans woman.

If he wants to preserve the GRA, he needs to explain to the electorate exactly the process needed for any man to become a woman. That's the bit politicians want to keep secret.

Some people with a penis are women.

We must protect spaces for women.

Those with penis's and vaginas presumably?

I think the only solution is to start describing people by their genitals in all discussion.
It becomes very obvious what's being said then.

We want safe spaces for people with vaginas.

I still find it hard to believe. That we have reached a point where top politicians are prepared to say the blatantly absurd.

Not just lies, they've all always done that.

But something so illogical and absurd yet fits an ideology and Keir Starmer will say it.

They think they've found a nice get out to the question.
Women are adult females.
AndTrans women are women

Please everyone right?

Except it's obvious that by that logic some people with a penis are adult females.

Do they think we can't follow simple logic?

He thinks this is some minority issue where you can cut and paste the bits you like and nobody will really care. 51% of the UK population are women. As with Brexit, a slim majority is still a majority. And for every handmaiden woman there is a father, brother, boyfriend, partner, common sense dick-haver who will not let this mealy mouthed crap stand.

Just another example of him saying what he thinks people want to hear, or the opposite of what is bloody obvious.

I wouldn't vote labour in a million years while they have so little clue

JKR is politely and eloquently taking no prisoners. Sleeves rolled up and On It.

What are we allowed to debate?

What situations can he envisage which might need debating?

A women's equality-focused party (in place of the utterly fucking useless Women's Equality Party) with JKR at its head would be a dream come true.

He is being straightforward about this.

His position is clear Woman are females and ANY man who wishes to identify as a woman.

Single sex spaces will be available to anyone defined as a woman under either of those definitions under any reformed laws that the Labour Party wishes to push through.

This is what is happening in the US democratic party. The left has lost it's way and is revealing itself to be deeply misogynistic and frankly undemocratic.

Sir Keir Starmer is a VERY intelligent man. He knows what the result will be of this and has decided that women don't matter to him.

What he's actual said is a woman can be female or male, and the idiot thinks he's crushed it.

He's either stupid or thinks we are.

I can imagine them coming up with that statement and thinking 'yes! That's it! That's the statement! It's got Adult Human Female in there to appease the pesky GCs but then we also get in TWAW and make a vague reference to the GRA. Perfect!'

Fucking idiots.